A Hand Quiz with a difference

[tikay]

Derek Kelly, of Gutshot, got Jen & myself debating this in Dublin last night. It's probably been on Gutshot before, but there's no right or wrong answer, it's a matter of opinion..... Derek gave me his permission to run it here, so I will. It's an old chstnut really, but it IS interesting in my view.

It's the first hand of the WSOP biggie, $10,000 entry.

Button is in seat 1.

Seat 4 goes all-in. Seat 5 calls all-in.

You are in seat 7. What is the biggest hand you'd pass in this spot?

Derek claims that several Pros got it "right". I don't think there IS a right, necessarily, but what's your answer, & please explain why.

[The Baron]

Off the top of my head and with a 5 day hangover I'd stab at Queens.

Wouldn't want to be facing two overs so early or the overpair.

I don't know about Kings. Think I'd be too tempted by a 30k stack to pass them.

[Karabiner]

KK

I don't care to divulge 

[snoopy1239]

Me - Kings

Did the pro suggest folding aces so they can outplay the table rather than risk the outdraw?

[byronkincaid]

Sklansky says to pass kings in a similar sort of situation in his tourney book. I ain't passing aces though. This ain't some kind of pass aces question is it?

[RED-DOG]

I think I would pass any hand here, whats the best I could be, 60% fav?

[tikay]

No, it's NOT a "pass Aces" type question.

But you might ask yourself what the geezer in Seat 4 had to go all-in for 10,000, with 75 chips in the pot, & how seat 5 would have viewed this......

[Karabiner]

I think I would pass any hand here, whats the best I could be, 60% fav?

And here's me thinking that I was a rock !

[Robert HM]

There was a long running debate on gutshot about passing Aces in this situation. Would you want to be outdrawn and labelled the first out. Yes, I'd risk it for the odds are I would be early chip leader instead. I'd pass anything else though.

[The Baron]

I think I would pass any hand here, whats the best I could be, 60% fav?

Still a 60% shot at 30k though.

[RED-DOG]

I think I would pass any hand here, whats the best I could be, 60% fav?

And here's me thinking that I was a rock !

Yes but I'm better than 60% fave to get their chips anyway

[snoopy1239]

No, it's NOT a "pass Aces" type question.

But you might ask yourself what the geezer in Seat 4 had to go all-in for 10,000, with 75 chips in the pot, & how seat 5 would have viewed this......

Well, he may have thought he had AK or TT. Folk tend to shove it in with those hands cos they don't want to play the flop with them.

[12barblues]

I'm a huge under dog to the field so I'm calling with KK or AA. If I felt I was average, I'd call with AA. If I was as arrogant as Mr Hellmuth I'd  pass everything so I could use my 'skill' to outplay the field of 8,000 people later with less risk to my stack.

[ifm]

3-1!!
nothing, i'd call with any 2

[RED-DOG]

I think player 4 has AA and player 5 has a gun