A Hand Quiz with a difference

[The Baron]

If the calling player has the goods to call ie QQ or KK, then aces must be a call from me.

Still confused about kings though.....

[byronkincaid]

I have already mentioned this in another thread but Paul Phillips saying he would take a true 50/50 to double up first hand of WSOP was an eye opener for me. IIRC Sklansky also says average players should be gambling even when they've got slightly the worst of it. As a worse than average player I now lump it in at anything up to a 4/1 dog

[ifm]

player 4 can't have AA or KK (why go allin)likely to have AK, QQ, JJ, maybe 1010, player 5 could have AA or KK or AK (though not much else, unless he's stupid).
So, i would pass KK and call with AA because the best hand i'm likely to be against is KK (AA is highly unlikely if i have em).
Though if either player 4 or 5 are scandies they could have anything
I suppose though there is a good case for passing anything because you are gonna be racing 2 players

[ifm]

though Ironside says i'm a fish

[Longy]

I think im with the majority i pass kings but not aces in a month of sundays. Tho red dogs conundrum with the gun maybe you could let the aces go depends how big player 5's gun is(or is that a bit personal).

[Royal Flush]

I would probably have overselpt (they start the wsop at midday?!?!?) so no worries for me!!


Having said that if i was at the table i call with AA and muck the rest, although i am pretty sure the other 2 hands are AA and KK i take the risk to gain 5k in chips. No-one is a good enough player to pass this kind of edge in a field that big, and i might get lucky enough to be up against KK and KK!!!

I would love to be first out of the wsop and AA all in pre flop as the hand! What a story! Better than "well i made the top 3000"

[suzanne]

As a rookie i would say the same..only hand i would play is AA..but saying that i did just that tonight AA v 88 and guess what 8 on the flop and another 8 on the river grrrrrrrrr

[dik9]

I would pass Aces, I don't think I could improve. If it was head to head you couldn't get me out, but I believe I am calling dead with 2 players all-in. Sounds a bit daft but I would probably play kings with 2 in already. But I am a fish so don't listen to me.

[BlueWolf]

a lot depends on the situation really, have players 4 and 5 brought in themselves?? or are they sponsored??? if both or player 5 have bought in i pass anything really, but if both are sponsored i call with pockets 8's or more, hell maybe even decent suited connectors are worth  apop

[dik9]

...............bob....................bob..................bob...................(or the sound of a fish gasping for air??)

[matt674]

I would pass Aces, I don't think I could improve. If it was head to head you couldn't get me out, but I believe I am calling dead with 2 players all-in. Sounds a bit daft but I would probably play kings with 2 in already. But I am a fish so don't listen to me.

So you would pass aces but probably play kings?!?!?!?!?

How can you be calling dead with AA preflop?

If it is true that you would pass aces preflop then you're in the wrong game - to pass aces pre-flop at any time in a tourney is wrong in my opinion unless you are playing in a super satellite where you have enough chips to have secured your seat or you are at a final table with 3 or 4 people all-in in front of you which means you make a substantial jump in prize money.

All this talk that Phill Hellmuth would pass aces because he has the skill and ability to outplay his opponents is all very well and good but it still doesnt stop someone who he outplays to hit runner runner for a backdoor flush to knock him out. He's also more likely to be better at outplaying his opponents when he has a $30k to $10k chip advantage over the rest of the table.

[JP]

I can't believe people would pass AA here. About a 66% chance of having 30k after 1 hand in a 6000 player tournament how much of an edge do you want?

[TightEnd]

Biggest hand I pass is QQ or AK.

I don't have an edge over field, I'm playing AA and KK.

[ariston]

You would have to assume the 2nd player who calls has AA so the first man must have KK or worse (if you have the other 2 aces). I think that you would be playing for a chop pot against a man who could easily catch. I dont fancy a badbeat in the first hand of the world series I would much rather outplay myself and throw my chips away later so I fold any hand in this spot. I did play aces in a similar situation at the Bellagio last year the first hand and found myself up against 10 10 and AA. The other AA made a flush.

[oinkment]

You got be against two big pairs here so I would fold any pair except aces - KK, QQ. JJ or TT included. If they both had AQ or AK then I woiuld kick myself.

I think you want a suited connector to call this one - 7/8 or 8/9 will do me!  ;-)

But I know I would fold to two all in's in reality - why go out early on a half chance i would rather wait for a heads up situation than a 3 way.