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« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2008, 05:29:41 PM » |
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id say manu or barca are a step above the rest
though it is a cup so chelski liverpool arsenal have chances
fenerbache schalke roma have no chance to win imo
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« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2008, 05:31:29 PM » |
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looking at the first one I think you have to work out the odds on one prem v prem match from 8 teams, then the odds of the remaining 6 teams producing the only prem v prem match, then combining the two.
so that's premA have 7 possible opponents, 3 of which are prem so thats 42.9% or 3/7 or 4:3 six remaining teams 1 of 6 possible opponents are prem so that's 16.7% or 1/6 or 5:1 putting a 4/3 and a 5/1 on as a double gets 14/1 So I was right
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« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2008, 05:32:08 PM » |
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my bets would be manu to win or barca to win or if you have plenty money lay roma
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« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2008, 05:32:26 PM » |
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looking at the first one I think you have to work out the odds on one prem v prem match from 8 teams, then the odds of the remaining 6 teams producing the only prem v prem match, then combining the two.
so that's premA have 7 possible opponents, 3 of which are prem so thats 42.9% or 3/7 or 4:3 six remaining teams 1 of 6 possible opponents are prem so that's 16.7% or 1/6 or 5:1 putting a 4/3 and a 5/1 on as a double gets 14/1 So I was right
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« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2008, 05:39:17 PM » |
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I think Man U & Arsenal are the best 2 sides left in it but the fact that they will be slugging it out for the title will work against them. Barca won't win it as they are not good enough at the back. Roma, I've not seen enough of so can't really comment but they would be a surprise winner. Fenner/Schalke aren't good enough. That leaves Chelsea & Liverpool who are both capable of winning it. If pushed I'd go for the course & distance winners Liverpool but I wouldn't like to bet against Chelsea in a final played in Moscow 
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« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2008, 05:42:59 PM » |
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i pray for there not to be a liverpool chelski euro tie ever again, 6 of the worst games ive ever seen
arsenal/manu/barca tie please
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« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2008, 05:59:35 PM » |
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i pray for there not to be a liverpool chelski euro tie ever again, 6 of the worst games ive ever seen Don't watch Liverpool play. We'll only disappoint you when we win. arsenal/manu/barca tie please
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« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2008, 06:09:04 PM » |
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I think Man U & Arsenal are the best 2 sides left in it but the fact that they will be slugging it out for the title will work against them. Barca won't win it as they are not good enough at the back. Roma, I've not seen enough of so can't really comment but they would be a surprise winner. Fenner/Schalke aren't good enough. That leaves Chelsea & Liverpool who are both capable of winning it. If pushed I'd go for the course & distance winners Liverpool but I wouldn't like to bet against Chelsea in a final played in Moscow  
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« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2008, 06:29:03 PM » |
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looking at the first one I think you have to work out the odds on one prem v prem match from 8 teams, then the odds of the remaining 6 teams producing the only prem v prem match, then combining the two.
so that's premA have 7 possible opponents, 3 of which are prem so thats 42.9% or 3/7 or 4:3 six remaining teams 1 of 6 possible opponents are prem so that's 16.7% or 1/6 or 5:1 putting a 4/3 and a 5/1 on as a double gets 14/1 So I was right
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Good.  no, it's wrong in the second part the prem team has 5 possible opponents so it's a combination of 4:3 and 4:1 which is about 8.6% or just short of 12:1 i think
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« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2008, 08:05:13 PM » |
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If you were going to bet a lot liverpool would be good e/w for me 2 finals in three rafas the man in europe (shame he cant work the prem out for u) also prob go liverpool straight out for what i just said.All four english teams have a good chance and would agree that chelski are least likely to win out of the 4 for me gl all. All eng final be good man u liverpool
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« Reply #40 on: March 12, 2008, 09:16:03 PM » |
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looking at the first one I think you have to work out the odds on one prem v prem match from 8 teams, then the odds of the remaining 6 teams producing the only prem v prem match, then combining the two.
so that's premA have 7 possible opponents, 3 of which are prem so thats 42.9% or 3/7 or 4:3 six remaining teams 1 of 6 possible opponents are prem so that's 16.7% or 1/6 or 5:1 putting a 4/3 and a 5/1 on as a double gets 14/1 So I was right
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Good.  no, it's wrong in the second part the prem team has 5 possible opponents so it's a combination of 4:3 and 4:1 which is about 8.6% or just short of 12:1 i think Good. 
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« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2008, 11:36:35 AM » |
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I think Man U & Arsenal are the best 2 sides left in it but the fact that they will be slugging it out for the title will work against them. Barca won't win it as they are not good enough at the back. Roma, I've not seen enough of so can't really comment but they would be a surprise winner. Fenner/Schalke aren't good enough. That leaves Chelsea & Liverpool who are both capable of winning it. If pushed I'd go for the course & distance winners Liverpool but I wouldn't like to bet against Chelsea in a final played in Moscow  Usually I would agree but ManUre's squad is big this year. The strength in depth is actually a little worrying. It's the first year since 99 I've had to sweat on who's winning it.
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« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2008, 12:05:35 PM » |
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i pray for there not to be a liverpool chelski euro tie ever again, 6 of the worst games ive ever seen
arsenal/manu/barca tie please
A god i agree..
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« Reply #43 on: March 13, 2008, 07:17:23 PM » |
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i pray for there not to be a liverpool chelski euro tie ever again, 6 of the worst games ive ever seen
arsenal/manu/barca tie please
A god i agree.. Thought you would like it seen as you beat them. Would expect at least one all eng tie out of the 4 man u vs lpool would probly be the best tie but like a said would like that to be the final see what happens soon enough must be nice to have cl draw to think about instead of relegation lol oh for the good old days when we at least challenged at the top.
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« Reply #44 on: March 13, 2008, 07:21:11 PM » |
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i predict
liverpool v man utd
arsenal v chelsea
roma v fenebache
schalke v barca
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