Tipping, your opinions please

[Azirapheal]

Well im curious to know how you guys feel  about and act when tipping a dealer at the poker tables.  if you could spare a few keystrokes to click an option and write a sentence or two below about your ideas and thoughts on tipping dealers id be rather grateful..

many thanks

az

[Karabiner]

Small pots: No tip

Medium sized pots £50<£150: £1 (maybe not at the lower[£50] end if I'm losing)

Large pots £250+: £2(maybe only £1 if I'm losing or £3 if I'm winning well)

[kinboshi]

I also tip if it's a decent-sized pot. 

[Tom_W]

For the small pots I don’t tip unless I win say 3 in quick succession.

I tip for the bigger pots; the tip size varies on just how big the pot is. £1.50 on average.

[boldie]

to be honest..that is one of the worst articles I have ever read and would only make me inclined to not tip at all.

it's the age old excuse "The rake is for the house, not the dealer" What a load of bollox. I pay rake/ session fees so that the house can pay the dealer a decent wage.

Do I get paid more money for doing a decent job? No, I get to keep my job...as does the dealer. A shitty dealer should get the sack..thereby making less than a good one.

I always tip when winning, tipping when losing is something that's just not going to happen (unless I'm getting up from a table and find I have have a few £ left so might as well give that to the dealer) and is something that shouldn't be encouraged.

Casinos and card rooms should just pay their staff properly and hire the right people..not tell people already spending their money there to make sure the dealers and valets get a decent wage.

This entire discussion is really starting to piss me off.

[Jaydeaa]

My cash games, in the rendevouz and mint southend are player dealt so obviously this does not come into it and its £2 a hour in rendevouz or £5 with a dealer (but never available) and £5 per hour in mint

I play at a place called on the river, in grays and after reading this i have come up with a bit of a strange theory. Being one cash table, its starts at 50p/1quid and at 10pm goes to 1/2 and then the dealer is tipped all the 25p chips, usuaally at least 15 quids worth, should i ask them to change them into pound chips for me? or am i a nasty bastard as all the dealers are mates of mine lol!

[kinboshi]

to be honest..that is one of the worst articles I have ever read and would only make me inclined to not tip at all.

it's the age old excuse "The rake is for the house, not the dealer" What a load of bollox. I pay rake/ session fees so that the house can pay the dealer a decent wage.

Do I get paid more money for doing a decent job? No, I get to keep my job...as does the dealer. A shitty dealer should get the sack..thereby making less than a good one.

I always tip when winning, tipping when losing is something that's just not going to happen (unless I'm getting up from a table and find I have have a few £ left so might as well give that to the dealer) and is something that shouldn't be encouraged.

Casinos and card rooms should just pay their staff properly and hire the right people..not tell people already spending their money there to make sure the dealers and valets get a decent wage.

This entire discussion is really starting to piss me off.

Not a fan of tipping then shorty?

[Moskvich]

Out of interest, anyone know what a dealer in this country gets paid? And how much they typically make in tips..?

[boldie]

to be honest..that is one of the worst articles I have ever read and would only make me inclined to not tip at all.

it's the age old excuse "The rake is for the house, not the dealer" What a load of bollox. I pay rake/ session fees so that the house can pay the dealer a decent wage.

Do I get paid more money for doing a decent job? No, I get to keep my job...as does the dealer. A shitty dealer should get the sack..thereby making less than a good one.

I always tip when winning, tipping when losing is something that's just not going to happen (unless I'm getting up from a table and find I have have a few £ left so might as well give that to the dealer) and is something that shouldn't be encouraged.

Casinos and card rooms should just pay their staff properly and hire the right people..not tell people already spending their money there to make sure the dealers and valets get a decent wage.

This entire discussion is really starting to piss me off.

Not a fan of tipping then shorty?

lol..I always tip..I just don't like the "you have to tip or you should be put to the stake because those poor little dealers will starve to death otherwise. F' em..let the get a different job if they don't make enough money dealing..or go work for a place that does pay a decent wage.

Do I have to tip the cleaning lady at my office for doing a good job? I'm pretty sure she's struggling to make ends meet as she has 3 different jobs.

I just can't believe casinos have gotten the players to accept that it's us that should be paying the dealers and valets a decent wage.

[kinboshi]

Out of interest, anyone know what a dealer in this country gets paid? And how much they typically make in tips..?

We were discussing this at the weekend, and a dealer said that they get round about the minimum wage.  I'm sure the dealer said that the tips they receive make up a very large amount of their take home pay.

[kinboshi]

to be honest..that is one of the worst articles I have ever read and would only make me inclined to not tip at all.

it's the age old excuse "The rake is for the house, not the dealer" What a load of bollox. I pay rake/ session fees so that the house can pay the dealer a decent wage.

Do I get paid more money for doing a decent job? No, I get to keep my job...as does the dealer. A shitty dealer should get the sack..thereby making less than a good one.

I always tip when winning, tipping when losing is something that's just not going to happen (unless I'm getting up from a table and find I have have a few £ left so might as well give that to the dealer) and is something that shouldn't be encouraged.

Casinos and card rooms should just pay their staff properly and hire the right people..not tell people already spending their money there to make sure the dealers and valets get a decent wage.

This entire discussion is really starting to piss me off.

Not a fan of tipping then shorty?

lol..I always tip..I just don't like the "you have to tip or you should be put to the stake because those poor little dealers will starve to death otherwise. F' em..let the get a different job if they don't make enough money dealing..or go work for a place that does pay a decent wage.

Do I have to tip the cleaning lady at my office for doing a good job? I'm pretty sure she's struggling to make ends meet as she has 3 different jobs.

I just can't believe casinos have gotten the players to accept that it's us that should be paying the dealers and valets a decent wage.

Do you ever tip waiters and waitresses or taxi drivers?

[boldie]

to be honest..that is one of the worst articles I have ever read and would only make me inclined to not tip at all.

it's the age old excuse "The rake is for the house, not the dealer" What a load of bollox. I pay rake/ session fees so that the house can pay the dealer a decent wage.

Do I get paid more money for doing a decent job? No, I get to keep my job...as does the dealer. A shitty dealer should get the sack..thereby making less than a good one.

I always tip when winning, tipping when losing is something that's just not going to happen (unless I'm getting up from a table and find I have have a few £ left so might as well give that to the dealer) and is something that shouldn't be encouraged.

Casinos and card rooms should just pay their staff properly and hire the right people..not tell people already spending their money there to make sure the dealers and valets get a decent wage.

This entire discussion is really starting to piss me off.

Not a fan of tipping then shorty?

lol..I always tip..I just don't like the "you have to tip or you should be put to the stake because those poor little dealers will starve to death otherwise. F' em..let the get a different job if they don't make enough money dealing..or go work for a place that does pay a decent wage.

Do I have to tip the cleaning lady at my office for doing a good job? I'm pretty sure she's struggling to make ends meet as she has 3 different jobs.

I just can't believe casinos have gotten the players to accept that it's us that should be paying the dealers and valets a decent wage.

Do you ever tip waiters and waitresses or taxi drivers?

yes..and , Like I said, I also tip dealers. BUT it should not be expected!..It really shouldn't be that difficult to comprehend. If you are not winning at the table why should you give someone more of your money? If you also have bills to pay at home from your money you shouldn't feel bad about not giving someone else more of your money. I feel the same should go for when you buy a cup of coffee somewhere.

Just because people in other industries are also becoming accustomed to having to rely on tips to make ends meet that does not mean it's normal! Really, when did people start to think "Hey, you know what..it's OK if everybody makes a shitty wage as long as everybody tips eachother it will all be OK" ?

The price of my taxi has not gone down in recent years..in fact it has gone up because the price of fuel went up..Why then would the drivers salary go down? Because it is expected that they make most of their money from tips..so the companies can skim just that little bit more off their salaries.
It's a load of bollox, it really really is.

I think it's pityful how in America a waitress will really not make ends meet without tips, Brittain is fast heading in the same direction because for some reason people don't mind getting shafted. And then I get the blame for not tipping enough? GFY TYVM.

I will state again to avoid any confusion..Yes I do tip BUT you really shouldn't have to do it so the dealer can make ends meet..you should do it so he can buy himself an extra drink or so.

[kinboshi]

[MrsBoldie]

Have you been stalking my husband?

[Moskvich]

Out of interest, anyone know what a dealer in this country gets paid? And how much they typically make in tips..?

We were discussing this at the weekend, and a dealer said that they get round about the minimum wage.  I'm sure the dealer said that the tips they receive make up a very large amount of their take home pay.

I'm sure it does. Say it was even a lowish stakes game, maybe £1-2 NL - it doesn't seem that unreasonable to think that in your average loosish live game a dealer might on average get tipped a quid a hand. So maybe as much as £20-25 an hour, on top of the 6 quid on whatever they actually get paid. Or am I massively overestimating it?