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« on: April 03, 2008, 04:13:34 PM »

PokerStars Game #16454629097: Tournament #83320906, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/04/03 - 10:16:56 (ET)
Table '83320906 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: incrMental (2055 in chips)
Seat 4: pinfishtom (2700 in chips)
Seat 5: kidzxc (1620 in chips)
Seat 6: tequila.kid (1440 in chips)
Seat 7: watsonalex (3495 in chips)
Seat 8: thisiskoko (2190 in chips)
kidzxc: posts small blind 100
tequila.kid: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kidzxc [ ]
watsonalex: folds
thisiskoko: raises 400 to 600
incrMental: raises 1455 to 2055 and is all-in
pinfishtom: folds
kidzxc: .......





PokerStars Game #16454726067: Tournament #83320906, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (150/300) - 2008/04/03 - 10:23:49 (ET)
Table '83320906 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: incrMental (980 in chips)
Seat 4: pinfishtom (2375 in chips)
Seat 5: kidzxc (1845 in chips)
Seat 6: tequila.kid (1165 in chips)
Seat 7: watsonalex (4520 in chips)
Seat 8: thisiskoko (2615 in chips)
incrMental: posts the ante 25
pinfishtom: posts the ante 25
kidzxc: posts the ante 25
tequila.kid: posts the ante 25
watsonalex: posts the ante 25
thisiskoko: posts the ante 25
pinfishtom: posts small blind 150
kidzxc: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kidzxc [ Ah]
tequila.kid: folds
watsonalex: folds
thisiskoko: folds
incrMental: raises 655 to 955 and is all-in
pinfishtom: folds
kidzxc:........

These two situations made me pause and I am not sure if I played them correctly. What do you do and why? It is a fairly tight table but not as agressive as it should be given the nature and structure of the tournement.


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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2008, 04:23:32 PM »

remind me of the payout structure please mate.

Hand 1 I think is a fold.

Hand 2 is a call for me.
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2008, 04:28:26 PM »

Another vote for fold the 1st and call the 2nd.

Payout is - 5th gets level 1 ticket (worth $7.50), 3rd-4th gets level 2 ticket (money back), 1st-2nd gets level 3 ticket ($82).
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2008, 04:31:51 PM »

Yep im going to be boring and say the same.

Hand 1: Fold though its close, i would call with queens.

Hand 2: I snap call this and call with alot less given its a button shove, his range should be at least top 50% if he is any good but is probably alot tighter. Plus we are getting very nice pot odds over 2 to 1. Im probably calling at least top 50% here possibly wider.
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2008, 04:58:07 PM »

snap call both
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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2008, 04:58:59 PM »

1 - call
2 - fold
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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2008, 06:14:58 PM »

fold both
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2008, 07:18:39 PM »

I'm surprised by anyone saying to fold the second, would be interested to hear their reasoning. ICM calcs suggest it's almost exactly a break-even call if his pushing range is 44+, A9o+, A7s+, KJs+, and it must be wider than that. He's probably not pushing any two (though he probably should be). But if he goes with any ace, any pair, K9+ and QT+ then you should still be calling with top 25%, and A9 is comfortably inside that.
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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2008, 07:49:40 PM »

I'm surprised by anyone saying to fold the second, would be interested to hear their reasoning. ICM calcs suggest it's almost exactly a break-even call if his pushing range is 44+, A9o+, A7s+, KJs+, and it must be wider than that. He's probably not pushing any two (though he probably should be). But if he goes with any ace, any pair, K9+ and QT+ then you should still be calling with top 25%, and A9 is comfortably inside that.

Thats prob cos they don't understand ICM, most poker players don't.
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2008, 08:27:03 PM »

I'm surprised by anyone saying to fold the second, would be interested to hear their reasoning. ICM calcs suggest it's almost exactly a break-even call if his pushing range is 44+, A9o+, A7s+, KJs+, and it must be wider than that. He's probably not pushing any two (though he probably should be). But if he goes with any ace, any pair, K9+ and QT+ then you should still be calling with top 25%, and A9 is comfortably inside that.

Thats prob cos they don't understand ICM, most poker players don't.

I only understand a bit of it and it's as clear as day that it's a call for me.
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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2008, 08:35:24 PM »

1 - call
2 - fold
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2008, 08:36:20 PM »

I'm surprised by anyone saying to fold the second, would be interested to hear their reasoning. ICM calcs suggest it's almost exactly a break-even call if his pushing range is 44+, A9o+, A7s+, KJs+, and it must be wider than that. He's probably not pushing any two (though he probably should be). But if he goes with any ace, any pair, K9+ and QT+ then you should still be calling with top 25%, and A9 is comfortably inside that.

Thats prob cos they don't understand ICM, most poker players don't.

I only understand a bit of it and it's as clear as day that it's a call for me.

But  A 9 only looks pretty when suited - clear fold.
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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2008, 08:38:07 PM »

I'm surprised by anyone saying to fold the second, would be interested to hear their reasoning. ICM calcs suggest it's almost exactly a break-even call if his pushing range is 44+, A9o+, A7s+, KJs+, and it must be wider than that. He's probably not pushing any two (though he probably should be). But if he goes with any ace, any pair, K9+ and QT+ then you should still be calling with top 25%, and A9 is comfortably inside that.

Thats prob cos they don't understand ICM, most poker players don't.

I only understand a bit of it and it's as clear as day that it's a call for me.

But  A 9 only looks pretty when suited - clear fold.

lol..OK..now stop being silly and find me some horses to lay off tomorrow Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2008, 09:01:49 PM »

I'm surprised by anyone saying to fold the second, would be interested to hear their reasoning. ICM calcs suggest it's almost exactly a break-even call if his pushing range is 44+, A9o+, A7s+, KJs+, and it must be wider than that. He's probably not pushing any two (though he probably should be). But if he goes with any ace, any pair, K9+ and QT+ then you should still be calling with top 25%, and A9 is comfortably inside that.

Thats prob cos they don't understand ICM, most poker players don't.

I only understand a bit of it and it's as clear as day that it's a call for me.

But  A 9 only looks pretty when suited - clear fold.

lol..OK..now stop being silly and find me some horses to lay off tomorrow Smiley

I'll give u a head start the 2nd and 3rd favs in the last at Kempton. 
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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2008, 09:17:25 PM »

call call
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