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« on: April 05, 2008, 11:49:22 AM » |
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Seven players left in an MTT, blinds are 8k/16k and about to increase.
I have 140k, the low stack has around 90k.
I find KQo UTG and open shove..
Tecnically correct or should I have waited ?
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GlasgowBandit
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2008, 11:52:05 AM » |
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I probably try ad find a better spot 6 to act behid you and I think we're in trouble if looked up maybe involved in a race at best if called by and underpair.
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2008, 12:06:44 PM » |
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Seven players left in an MTT, blinds are 8k/16k and about to increase.
I have 140k, the low stack has around 90k.
I find KQo UTG and open shove..
Tecnically correct or should I have waited ?
Standard shove assuming the average was resonable
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2008, 12:09:26 PM » |
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Yup i like the shove assuming the payout structure is standard for an MTT.
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DaveShoelace
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2008, 12:10:35 PM » |
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More than correct for me, I would push a lot worse than KQo in that spot (Im assuming you are going for the win?), mainly because you will lose more than 10% of your stack in the next hand if you dont. I'd rather shove with KQ in this spot than call with AK the next hand.
7 handed KQo is never getting called by a worse hand, but you have decent equity against a pair or AT-AJ. Obviously AQ+ crushes you but you dont run into them that often.
The 90k stack guy isnt going to call you without a monster, and some of the others at the table will be hanging around for him to bust before risking annihilation. I think you get away with it often and hit a winner often enough to justify it.
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gatso
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2008, 12:24:11 PM » |
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what they said. shove away, KQ easily good enough. this is one of those moves that people should do but most don't and it'll cost in the long run
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boldie
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2008, 03:22:34 PM » |
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what they said. shove away, KQ easily good enough. this is one of those moves that people should do but most don't and it'll cost in the long run
agreed.
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Karabiner
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2008, 12:46:07 PM » |
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Thanks for the feedback. The shove felt right but I've been running so bad in tourneys that I was having some doubts. I was somewhat reassured by the first reply though... 
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boldie
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2008, 12:56:54 PM » |
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Thanks for the feedback. The shove felt right but I've been running so bad in tourneys that I was having some doubts. I was somewhat reassured by the first reply though...  lmao
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TheChipPrince
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2008, 02:13:06 PM » |
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Happy with the move, standard...
but you ran into a monster didnt you?!
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Karabiner
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2008, 02:29:01 PM » |
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Happy with the move, standard...
but you ran into a monster didnt you?!
Well I ran into a hand that I didn't want to see, AK which held, hence the self-analysis.
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gatso
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2008, 04:24:19 PM » |
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Thanks for the feedback. The shove felt right but I've been running so bad in tourneys that I was having some doubts. I was somewhat reassured by the first reply though...  POTW IMO
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DaveShoelace
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2008, 07:33:27 PM » |
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Happy with the move, standard...
but you ran into a monster didnt you?!
Well I ran into a hand that I didn't want to see, AK which held, hence the self-analysis. Ahhhh, in which case, totally the wrong move.
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GlasgowBandit
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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2008, 08:10:15 PM » |
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Thanks for the feedback. The shove felt right but I've been running so bad in tourneys that I was having some doubts. I was somewhat reassured by the first reply though...  POTW IMO good shove!
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2008, 10:22:12 AM » |
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With an M of less than 6 your only option is to shove, but if called it'll probably be a big Ace or a pair. You're racing so would you rather do it with K2? If you dont see anything better through the blinds you are gonna be down to 116000 and M is 4.8 (if the blinds have just gone up). Wouldn't have been the worst pass UTG, but I'd have been tempted to follow your example.
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