Call or fold??

[action man]

PokerStars Game #16634175495: Tournament #84080532, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (2000/4000) - 2008/04/10 - 18:54:13 (ET)
Table '84080532 39' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: pokerbrew (112602 in chips)
Seat 3: SirECartman (98435 in chips)
Seat 4: DonDan87 (86473 in chips)
Seat 5: ThEcLaiMEer (220904 in chips)
Seat 8: Choppers28 (139686 in chips)
Seat 9: -IriSh-cH0p- (166722 in chips)
 -pokerbrew: posts the ante 400
SirECartman: posts the ante 400
DonDan87: posts the ante 400
-IriSh-cH0p-: posts the ante 400
Choppers28: posts the ante 400
ThEcLaiMEer: posts the ante 400
DonDan87: posts small blind 2000
ThEcLaiMEer: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ThEcLaiMEer [ ]
Choppers28: folds
-IriSh-cH0p-: raises 6250 to 10250
pokerbrew: folds
SirECartman: folds
DonDan87: folds
 ThEcLaiMEer: calls 6250
*** FLOP *** [ ]
ThEcLaiMEer: bets 12000
-IriSh-cH0p-: raises 26912 to 38912
 ThEcLaiMEer: calls 26912
*** TURN *** [ ] []
ThEcLaiMEer:checks
-IriSh-cH0p-: checks
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
ThEcLaiMEer: checks
-IriSh-cH0p-: bets 42912


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read on opponent is Loose aggressive. But can play.

[Colchester Kev]

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[booder]

fold pre

[Mr Mardy Bum]

fold pre

Agreed.

[action man]

but after we call?

[Horneris]

PokerStars Game #16634175495: Tournament #84080532, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (2000/4000) - 2008/04/10 - 18:54:13 (ET)
Table '84080532 39' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: pokerbrew (112602 in chips)
Seat 3: SirECartman (98435 in chips)
Seat 4: DonDan87 (86473 in chips)
Seat 5: ThEcLaiMEer (220904 in chips)
Seat 8: Choppers28 (139686 in chips)
Seat 9: -IriSh-cH0p- (166722 in chips)

220,000 and you came 11th?

[action man]

analysis on hand please sir

[Horneris]

analysis on hand please sir

Call. He probs has 96os

[Colchester Kev]

analysis on hand please sir

Call. He probs has 96os

 

[TightEnd]

call

why

1 he checks turn, therefore he doesn't have a great deal to protect, possibly he's semi bluffed on the flop

2 you check the river, your second check..he therefore has the green light to bluff/buy the pot, possibly a missed heart draw

[boldie]

fold pre

that's just wrong...can't fold this pre.not for the extra 6k.

tough spot you're in though...I haven't yet decided whether I like you leading out on the flop for a pot sized and then calling his re-raise. I probably bet out 8k ish and fold (flushy will kill me for that) or check call...maybe check raise against oppo.

What oppo has been playing like uptill now determines my action on the flop....the ace on the river...well I either lead out on that,hoping to steal the pot there or check fold.

[LeKnave]

fold pre

that's just wrong...can't fold this pre.not for the extra 6k.

you can due to the -ve implied odds tht come from playing a retard hand like K9o OOP vs a good reg.

[booder]

fold pre

that's just wrong...can't fold this pre.not for the extra 6k.

K9.....what flop do you want to see  ?   If you are gonna defend your BB then there are better hands to do it with .  If i am gonna defend , i am not gonna do it with a raggy king or a raggy ace. Let it go preflop, you have no need to get involved.

[boldie]

fold pre

that's just wrong...can't fold this pre.not for the extra 6k.

K9.....what flop do you want to see  ?   If you are gonna defend your BB then there are better hands to do it with .  If i am gonna defend , i am not gonna do it with a raggy king or a raggy ace. Let it go preflop, you have no need to get involved.

I don't know anything about the oppo (had he been active pre-flop?..has he been the rock of al ages pre-flop?) but ussually I'll have a look when i'm getting 2-1 + in pot odds. ..I don't care much for the "no need to get involved thing"...(you might well be right of course)..I have chips...I'll have a peek and see if I can get some more.

[booder]

I'll have a peek and see if I can get some more.

I'll have a peek and spew off chips on a raggy king high flop v KJ/KQ/AA/AK