Anti-Speed Camera Petition

[kinboshi]

I'm all in favour of speed cameras.

And I got a 6 month ban for speeding 3 years ago - caught by the Cameras.

If you don't wanna be caught speeding, don't speed. 

Speed cameras are fine - but why the point-to-point ones that mean you drive with your eyes transfixed to the speedo rather than taking in the hazards that are around you?  Usually these average speed checks are on motorways where they are doing roadworks and there are workmen close to where you're driving.  Ideally, you'd be focusing on what's happening around you, rather than taking your eyes off the road.

Why not just use a number of gatso or truvelo cameras along the stretch of road, instead of these ridiculous specs?

try sticking to the limit all the time. you'll soon get used to it and not have to stare at your speedo.

So how do you know how fast you're going if you don't look at your speedo?

It's not just you, you have to think about what others are doing.  I've had someone go into the back of me in a stretch of roadworks with these point-to-point cameras.  The other driver hadn't seen the traffic in front of him slow up - as he was trying to maintain his 50mph.

This fascination with speed is ludicrous. 

Drink-driving, dangerous driving, driving without a license or insurance, driving in a car that's not roadworthy are all more dangerous than speeding on a motorway.

Can't stop these with speed cameras though.

[Royal Flush]

They are most irritating but thankfully i run good so get away with it as they never have film in them!

[Colchester Kev]

Boshi, gonna have to pull you up there ... speeding/drink driving within the speed limit ... both equally as bad, and both liable to cause death.

I realise 70 on a motorway is a fkin drag at silly o'clock when there is no traffic about, and its different to driving at 45 in a 30 zone ... but both are criminal offences.

[Rookie (Rodney)]

I'm all in favour of speed cameras.

And I got a 6 month ban for speeding 3 years ago - caught by the Cameras.

If you don't wanna be caught speeding, don't speed. 

Speed cameras are fine - but why the point-to-point ones that mean you drive with your eyes transfixed to the speedo rather than taking in the hazards that are around you?  Usually these average speed checks are on motorways where they are doing roadworks and there are workmen close to where you're driving.  Ideally, you'd be focusing on what's happening around you, rather than taking your eyes off the road.

Why not just use a number of gatso or truvelo cameras along the stretch of road, instead of these ridiculous specs?

try sticking to the limit all the time. you'll soon get used to it and not have to stare at your speedo.

Boooo Speed Camera's.

[CelticGeezeer]

Bad laws are treated with the contempt they deserve, the motorway speed limit is a joke and is universally  ignored.


Speed cameras are just another tax, there are no speed cameras outside my child's school but the local dual carriage way is blanketed with them.

[jizzemm]

Speed cameras are just another tax, there are no speed cameras outside my child's school but the local dual carriage way is blanketed with them.

And that is the problem. I have 2 schools by me, load of d**k heads who drive up and down the road at easily speeds of 60+, no cameras.. From Runcorn into Liverpool all dual or motorway, 3 cameras, a total of 5 miles. ?? Thats the problem, they are used as + tax, instead of the speed controll that they should be used.

BTW, Av speed cameras rock.. !! You dont mess with them after being caught once  , ok it was double the av speed and probably deserved, but never speed throught them again, lesson learned and all that, ok, i must admit that Alex Fergusons solicitor is worth every penny, and he even got my costs back    .. but I still wont speed through the av speed ones again.

[kinboshi]

Boshi, gonna have to pull you up there ... speeding/drink driving within the speed limit ... both equally as bad, and both liable to cause death.

I realise 70 on a motorway is a fkin drag at silly o'clock when there is no traffic about, and its different to driving at 45 in a 30 zone ... but both are criminal offences.

Kev, that's nonsense. 

There's speed, and there's inappropriate speed.  Going 30mph near a school is far more dangerous than going 85mph on a clear motorway in dry weather - FACT.

Drink-driving is far more dangerous than exceeding the speed limit on a motorway (conditions permitting).  With all these people speeding on motorways, how come they are by far the safest places to drive a car?

If drink-driving and speeding were both as bad as each other, then why are people sent to prison for it, whereas someone exceeding the speed limit is given a £60 fine and 3 points?

I think there should be far MORE cameras and speed checks in residential areas, where far more people are killed and injured by inappropriate speed.  I also think there should be far more patrols and stops to test people for drink-driving, driving without insurance, etc. 

From the Department for Transport's published figures, the top contributory factors for accidents in 2005 were:

Failed to look properly: 32%
Bad behaviour or inexperience: 25%
Misjudged other drivers speed/path: 18%
Poor turn/manoeuvre: 15%
Going too fast for conditions: 12%
Loss of control: 14%
Vision affected: 10%
Slippery road: 10%
Following too close: 7%
Sudden braking: 7%
Disobeyed traffic signal or stop sign: 6%
Impaired by alcohol: 5%
Exceeding speed limit: 5%
Road layout: 3%
Vehicle defects: 2%

But let's concentrate on 'speeding' as public enemy no.1 .  Also, although the figures for drink-driving and exceeding speed limit are both at 5%, three times as many fatalities are due to accidents involving drink-drivers compared to those involving speeding.

Also notice that 12% of the accidents were attributed to 'going too fast for the conditions' - not speeding.  Going 85pmh on a clear, dry motorway is far safer than going 65mph on the same motorway in torrential rain.  But as it's below the speed limit, it must be OK...

[Jon MW]

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But let's concentrate on 'speeding' as public enemy no.1 .  ...

They're not really though are they?

Speed cameras cost hardly anything and take very little manpower or maintenance - they are going to hardly any effort at all to catch people breaking the law - why shouldn't they?

However 'unimportant' the crime, if there is an easy way of catching people breaking it what possible reason could they have for not implementing it?

[RED-DOG]

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But let's concentrate on 'speeding' as public enemy no.1 .  ...

They're not really though are they?

Speed cameras cost hardly anything and take very little manpower or maintenance - they are going to hardly any effort at all to catch people breaking the law - why shouldn't they?

However 'unimportant' the crime, if there is an easy way of catching people breaking it what possible reason could they have for not implementing it?

It is illegal to put empty milk bottles on your doorstep. It is an "Unimportant" crime. There is an easy way of catching people breaking this law. Do you think it should be implemented?

[kinboshi]

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But let's concentrate on 'speeding' as public enemy no.1 .  ...

They're not really though are they?

Speed cameras cost hardly anything and take very little manpower or maintenance - they are going to hardly any effort at all to catch people breaking the law - why shouldn't they?

However 'unimportant' the crime, if there is an easy way of catching people breaking it what possible reason could they have for not implementing it?

I'll go and dig out the amount the government has spent on speeding campaigns, how many police patrols have been removed from our roads (as cameras can do their job, obviously), and how they don't actually make the roads safer unless they are in the right locations.

I'm not against speed cameras per se, I'm all for them if they help reduce accidents and resources can then be used to catch drink-drivers, uninsured drivers, etc.  Unfortunately, that's not how it works.

[thediceman]

I think there should be far MORE cameras and speed checks in residential areas, where far more people are killed and injured by inappropriate speed.  I also think there should be far more patrols and stops to test people for drink-driving, driving without insurance, etc. 

Petition signed. I do love the good old argument of the law is the law. Being oh so compliant is really what makes this country great. Allows authorities to implement what the f*** they like after sighting the worse case scenario with it gaining mass support and only receiving limited challenge.  

Kin, I agree with much of what you wrote but re: speed cameras in residential areas why would a council put them there, people won't be happy with a big FO gatso sitting understand their house. Let alone it wouldn't generate half the money of existing main road cameras.

[kinboshi]

Gatso is reading this thread.  How apt.

Let's go round again!!!

[kinboshi]

I think there should be far MORE cameras and speed checks in residential areas, where far more people are killed and injured by inappropriate speed.  I also think there should be far more patrols and stops to test people for drink-driving, driving without insurance, etc. 

Petition signed. I do love the good old argument of the law is the law. Being oh so compliant is really what makes this country great. Allows authorities to implement what the f*** they like after sighting the worse case scenario with it gaining mass support and only receiving limited challenge. 

Kin, I agree with much of what you wrote but re: speed cameras in residential areas why would a council put them there, people won't be happy with a big FO gatso sitting understand their house. Let alone it wouldn't generate half the money of existing main road cameras.

Gatso isn't that bad.  I'd rather have him sitting at my poker table than in front of my house though.

I get what you're saying about cameras in residential areas.  That gets me on to another bugbear of mine - speed bumps.  Too many, and there are better traffic-calming measures that don't have the downsides.

[jizzemm]

  

Kin, I agree with much of what you wrote but re: speed cameras in residential areas why would a council put them there, people won't be happy with a big FO gatso sitting understand their house. Let alone it wouldn't generate half the money of existing main road cameras.

ill have one outside my house, it might even save my life new mind any of this children from the 2 schools by me.

[TheChipPrince]

If the money the government make from speed cameras was ploughed back into making roads safer, improving roads, drink driving scemes, more traffis police etc, then i'm sure people would be more tolerant to them, simple as that...