Anti-Speed Camera Petition

[kinboshi]

I have no problem with speed cameras at all!

I got caught speeding soon after I passed my test (83MPH on dual carriageway), and it has kept me in line since.

The points get put back on my license in September.

NOBODY is exempt from the law so just dont speed, never an excuse especially if you get done for it in a built up area.

That's not the point.  Of course, if you break the law and caught - you pay for your crime.  No one's disputing that (well, I'm not).

I (and I think others are as well) am saying that speed cameras are ineffective ways of improving road safety, and they are obviously useless at catching people who are drunk, uninsured, driving dangerously, etc. 

They are also totally useless at determining if someone is doing an inappropriate speed.  Sometimes 70mph on a motorway is dangerous, but as it's within the arbitrary speed limit, many people think it can't be wrong.  The same people who use their mobile phones whilst driving, and do other things that are far more dangerous than going 85mph on a clear, dry motorway.

Speed cameras can't catch people who are drunk, uninsured, driving dangerously etc. - but they can catch people who are going over the speed limit.

The risk of being caught will slow some people down who might otherwise speed - some of the time they might speed would be when it was safe to go that fast and some when it wasn't.

Therefore on some occasions some people will drive more safely than they would if the cameras weren't there - so the cameras work.

They don't cost much and they make some difference, if they can be enchanced to catch the other elements described (drunk might be hard, but uninsured should be easy if the money was put into it for example) that would be better - but for the time being anything is better than just ignoring the problem altogether..

They don't make a difference.  They have not reduced KSIs.

Like I've said before, speeding doesn't cause accidents - inappropriate speed does.

[KingPoker]

Im by far not an angel when i drive or i wouldnt be getting the new wheels......

Exactly.  I'm thinking of 'downsizing' soon.  You wouldn't believe what I'm looking at possibly getting...

PM me if its too embarrassing to say on here. If its another frikking diesel (no matter how clever a diesel engine it is) thenI may have to arrange for a vet to put you down!

[kinboshi]

Im by far not an angel when i drive or i wouldnt be getting the new wheels......

Exactly.  I'm thinking of 'downsizing' soon.  You wouldn't believe what I'm looking at possibly getting...

PM me if its too embarrassing to say on here. If its another frikking diesel (no matter how clever a diesel engine it is) thenI may have to arrange for a vet to put you down!

Yes, it's a diesel.

[KingPoker]

Im by far not an angel when i drive or i wouldnt be getting the new wheels......

Exactly.  I'm thinking of 'downsizing' soon.  You wouldn't believe what I'm looking at possibly getting...

PM me if its too embarrassing to say on here. If its another frikking diesel (no matter how clever a diesel engine it is) thenI may have to arrange for a vet to put you down!

Yes, it's a diesel.

I MAY let you off if its a Honda or Seat diesel.....!

If it's a 1 series BMW diesel I seriously will disown you!

[gatso]

best bet is to buy an overseas registered vehicle, the cameras can get you as often as you want that way and you won't get the fine. don't need to pay road tax either

[The_duke]

Kin is downsizing

[KingPoker]

Kin is downsizing

Is that a suzuki? looks like it from the badge anyway.

Kin does love his jap cars...!

[kinboshi]

Kin is downsizing

Is that a suzuki? looks like it from the badge anyway.

Kin does love his jap cars...!

Is she included with the car?

[Grier78]

Time trial cameras are much better than the GATSO ones cos at least if you are in a strange area you can just keep the same speed as the rest of the traffic. If I am on a quiet road though then I have to keep looking at my spedo.

[KingPoker]

Kin is downsizing

Is that a suzuki? looks like it from the badge anyway.

Kin does love his jap cars...!

Is she included with the car?

If its soundproofed then I say we chuck her out and put ironside in it!

[Bongo]

Is it wise to buy a diesel kin?

I've heard it's set to rise a lot higher than petrol...

I've not researched the claims as I don't have a diesel and I'm not intending to change cars in the future.

You'll probably tell me i'm talking rubbish now!

[kinboshi]

Is it wise to buy a diesel kin?

I've heard it's set to rise a lot higher than petrol...

I've not researched the claims as I don't have a diesel and I'm not intending to change cars in the future.

You'll probably tell me i'm talking rubbish now!

Diesel is pricey - it's about the same price as super unleaded (that I have to buy at the moment).  The thing is, I'm unlikely to get 600 miles out of a tank with mine - and that's certainly doable in a diesel.

Also, it's a quick diesel I'm looking to get.

[Bongo]

That's true, but if it's 25-50p more expensive than petrol per litre?

[kinboshi]

A good point.  But 45mpg (combined) versus 32mpg for the petrol version of the car I'm looking at would balance that out I think.

Either way, motoring isn't cheap.  Unless you live in Luxembourg.

[Graham C]

Popped home to be greeted by a speeding notice of prosecution. There's obviously a good chance it was me, but on the day in question, I was off work and the time is 10.26 - I'm not usually out and about this early on my days off (I am up though!)

One thing I don't particularly agree with is the process of proceedings here.   I'm not 100% sure it was me.  I've had it before with a parking ticket - my registration number but a totally different make and model of car - something not right so I was let off, not to mention I was about 300 miles away.

The form I have to fill in says am I guilty or not.  If I'm not convinced it was me, but the only way I can get a photo is to take the matter to court, by which time, I'm in a lot deeper and get more penalty if it is me, but I'm being asked to say 100% it was me before I'm certain it is. 

I guess I'll just have to confess, but whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?  All I want is a bit of proof.