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« on: November 06, 2005, 07:31:44 PM » |
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His screen name on stars/ub is magic pitch. He is a French ex tennis pro who has a WPT title to his belt this much is common knowlegde.
However....
"When he is fresh, he is arguably one of the absolute best players in the world"
according to Negraneau.
I dont remember MagicPitch ever being a monster online.
Now he is playing 4k8k with the best in the world. How did this happen? Has he been staked? Is he indpendantly hugely wealthy? Has he been crushing live games?
I must say he is definately one of the classiest players to watch but when you consider the line up in the game he plays in vegas I wonder how he reached that bankroll size and that level of play. I mean Negraneau and hansen have millions from tourneys/endorsments, ivey huge tourney winnings and has been tearing up side games for 10 years and all the rest (greenstien, brunson, reese, harmon) have spent 20 years to reach this level. How did Benyamine manage this in the space of 4 years with no "huge" (million plus) wins.?
There can be pretty much no doubt that he is the best player in Europe then with wee gus from copenhagen a close second!
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2005, 07:33:49 PM » |
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Hmmm just because he is playing in the biggest game does not make him the best player in Europe. Same goes for Gus as well. Its almost common knowledge how much he has lost in the last 6 months.
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Balloo
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2005, 07:39:45 PM » |
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Hmmm just because he is playing in the biggest game does not make him the best player in Europe. Same goes for Gus as well. Its almost common knowledge how much he has lost in the last 6 months.
Gus was a huge loser over christmas up until wsop but since then doyle has admitted that he has made it all back "and more". I will find the source for this if you want. Do you think Benyamine is a long term donator in this game? I dont. If he is a winner then he is beating the biggest game in the world and the best line up therefore he is the best in Europe. How else do you keep score in poker? You think that there are guys who are beating 5/10 limit online that are better than players who are beating 100/200? I dont. |
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2005, 07:47:04 PM » |
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doesn't he own the aviaton club in paris?
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2005, 07:50:10 PM » |
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doesn't he own the aviaton club in paris?
Don't tell Bruno that!! |
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2005, 07:54:37 PM » |
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oh yeah, not him then  |
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2005, 08:31:17 PM » |
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"Smart" drugs ?
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2005, 11:10:54 PM » |
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I have been in conversations w/ other players who know him, they have all had very positive things to say about him, he is considered top notch w/ other top pros.
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2005, 11:31:11 PM » |
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There was also a recent rumour that he was relocating to England
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2005, 11:37:25 PM » |
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I'm not getting into the whole... who is the best player in Europe thing...
I have personally never spent any time on the table with him.
He hasn't made the money in a tournament in 12 months according to the Hendon Mob Database and i imagine he has played a fair few.
He may be in the top 20 players in Europe but i'm not convinced about being THE best!
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2005, 11:42:46 PM » |
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lets not go down the best in europe route again
we all know i am its just i dont have enough of a bankroll to prove it
or the inclination to build a bankroll big enough to prove it
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2005, 01:25:10 AM » |
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I'm not getting into the whole... who is the best player in Europe thing...
He may be in the top 20 players in Europe but i'm not convinced about being THE best!
Initially my post was really just to find out how he has ended up in the biggest game in the world especially as you correctly point out he has won very little in the past year. The last comment about him being the best and wee gus second was a little off the cuff but now that I have had time to think about it I dont see anyone being able to convince me there is a better player in Europe. Players definately have better tournament results, maybe some players have better side game results in single poker disciplines but overall himself and gus must be considered at this time a level above the rest of the players in Europe. Which "big game" professionals would not be considered in the top 20 in the world? Do you not agree that the mainstay of that game; Ivey, Reese, Brunson, Forrest, Negraneau, Harman & Giang are the best players in the world? This is the context I look at him playing in that game, he is playing with the very best players and is getting results. If it was football and the "big game" was the champions league only two Europeans regularly qualify and get results. How can they not be considered the best>?>  I understand the hype regarding the big game is sometimes over the top..... |
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2005, 01:52:47 AM » |
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how can you judge these people as the best?
the only way to use that game as a benchmark is to have every poker player on the planet play regularly in it!!
Then see who won the most money.
I suppose there is never going to be a way of ranking players satisfactorily.
do you go by who wins the most money?
Or who wins the most tournaments?
What if the best player in the world doesn't even play?
What if the best player in the world won't play outside his bedroom? or his local £10 rebuy?
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2005, 01:57:53 AM » |
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What if the best player in the world won't play outside his bedroom? or his local £10 rebuy?
Ahhhh, thanks ifm.  |
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2005, 02:03:14 AM » |
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how can you judge these people as the best?
the only way to use that game as a benchmark is to have every poker player on the planet play regularly in it!!
Then see who won the most money.
I suppose there is never going to be a way of ranking players satisfactorily.
do you go by who wins the most money?
Or who wins the most tournaments?
What if the best player in the world doesn't even play?
What if the best player in the world won't play outside his bedroom? or his local £10 rebuy?
Dosen't this argument apply to all sports, in fact doesn't it apply to everything anyone has acheved, ever? |
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