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TightEnd
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You are the TD
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June 23, 2008, 03:43:22 PM »
Names, locations etc are unimportant.
5 left in a live MTT, standard payout structure
blinds are 1500-3000 and there are 300,000 in play
passed to the button who has 75,000
He makes it 18,000 to play, which is way above the standard table raise....
the SB passes
the BB, who travels around with the button and has 80,000, sighs and flat calls the 18,000
on a board of 6 5 5 8 J, no flushes possible
Both players check 3 times
on their backs
BB shows AQ suited
Button turns over KK and wins the pot
the short-stack complains to dealer and asks for a ruling on "soft play"
You are the TD
what do you say?
a) there is no case to answer here, KK is nowhere near the nuts, deal the next hand
b) this is soft play, its bad etiquette and if witnessed again will be punished
c) its outright collusion, 10 minute penalty away from the table for the button
d) you say nothing
e) do you come to another conclusion?
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A or D
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c).
Exactly the same thing, I'm told, happened in the Betfred Girlie Tourney at Reading on Saturday. Neither the Dealer nor the TD said a word.
It's not really the Dealer's fault - they needed training as to these matters. But it has to be done.
Something along these lines also happened at
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last week I'm very reliably informed - but the Senior Management there are all ears & eyes, & action has been decided - it won't happen again!
We have to sort this trait out, it's bang wrong. A few Ban-Sticks will do the job.
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I'm with the wise one on this one. C for me.
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I think i go with C.
In fact i think I just throw them both out the tournament for being so stupid. Raise, fold on the river no ones any the wiser.
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how can C be correct? you rule that 2 players are colluding and then punish 1 of them? don't think so
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Quote from: gatso on June 23, 2008, 03:55:29 PM
how can C be correct? you rule that 2 players are colluding and then punish 1 of them? don't think so
who said punish one?
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Quote from: gatso on June 23, 2008, 03:55:29 PM
how can C be correct? you rule that 2 players are colluding and then punish 1 of them? don't think so
KK has the made hand and The bb Ace high
could button be soft playing his bb friend, and bb blameless? (rhetorical)
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Quote from: gatso on June 23, 2008, 03:55:29 PM
how can C be correct? you rule that 2 players are colluding and then punish 1 of them? don't think so
Sorry, I misread the question. Shoot them both.
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Quote from: boldie on June 23, 2008, 03:56:51 PM
Quote from: gatso on June 23, 2008, 03:55:29 PM
how can C be correct? you rule that 2 players are colluding and then punish 1 of them? don't think so
who said punish one?
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Quote from: tikay on June 23, 2008, 03:57:41 PM
Quote from: gatso on June 23, 2008, 03:55:29 PM
how can C be correct? you rule that 2 players are colluding and then punish 1 of them? don't think so
Sorry, I misread the question. Shoot them both
for not getting it all in pre imo
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Quote from: TightEnd on June 23, 2008, 03:57:29 PM
Quote from: gatso on June 23, 2008, 03:55:29 PM
how can C be correct? you rule that 2 players are colluding and then punish 1 of them? don't think so
KK has the made hand and The bb Ace high
could button be soft playing his bb friend, and bb blameless? (rhetorical)
OK, shoot the Button twice.
There is way too much of this crap these days.
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Quote from: TightEnd on June 23, 2008, 03:57:29 PM
Quote from: gatso on June 23, 2008, 03:55:29 PM
how can C be correct? you rule that 2 players are colluding and then punish 1 of them? don't think so
KK has the made hand and The bb Ace high
could button be soft playing his bb friend, and bb blameless? (rhetorical)
yes but then that's not answer C you see
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e) it is then!
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Quote from: gatso on June 23, 2008, 03:57:56 PM
Quote from: boldie on June 23, 2008, 03:56:51 PM
Quote from: gatso on June 23, 2008, 03:55:29 PM
how can C be correct? you rule that 2 players are colluding and then punish 1 of them? don't think so
who said punish one?
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Ah...shoot them both IMO. AQ guy/girl might just be hopeless and scared of the 5 (lmao) but KK player should really be shot.
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