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« on: July 07, 2008, 05:58:29 AM »

Playing a live $2/$5 cash nl game with $1k in front of me.

i have straddled and i see a raise to $40 from the only guy on the table who has me covered. The sb calls with $250 behind.

I have  in the straddle and call the $30 more.

3 to the flop and i check dark.

Flop comes 

The raiser fires out for $100 into the $120 pot.

The sb folds and action is on you what do you do next?
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2008, 06:46:15 AM »

Shove and represent a draw. A lot of turns kill your action even if you just raise.
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2008, 07:04:18 AM »

Shove and represent a draw. A lot of turns kill your action even if you just raise.

Sounds good to me.
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2008, 08:23:55 AM »

Shove and represent a draw. A lot of turns kill your action even if you just raise.

Sounds good to me.
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2008, 10:07:41 AM »

Shove and represent a draw. A lot of turns kill your action even if you just raise.

Sounds good to me.

Yep...
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2008, 10:21:54 AM »

Shove and represent a draw. A lot of turns kill your action even if you just raise.

Sounds good to me.

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that sounds OK to me....

 p.s. why check dark here?
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2008, 10:27:39 AM »

p.s. why check dark here?

I think checking in the dark may be worth a thread in itself. I've often read stuff like 'most people who check in the dark do so without understanding when or why that may be the right thing to do' without ever reading when these right situations are or what checking in the dark is trying to achieve.
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2008, 11:28:36 AM »

How is $1k deep when its 2-5-10? You are playing with less than 100BB!

Obv just get it in
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2008, 01:55:57 PM »

How is $1k deep when its 2-5-10? You are playing with less than 100BB!

Obv just get it in

I would consider anything 200xBB and up as 'deep' (just my definition I'm sure it's wrong).  So if the stacks were at least that 'deep'  - what would the correct play be here?
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2008, 01:57:32 PM »

How is $1k deep when its 2-5-10? You are playing with less than 100BB!

Obv just get it in

I would consider anything 200xBB and up as 'deep' (just my definition I'm sure it's wrong).  So if the stacks were at least that 'deep'  - what would the correct play be here?

If I am that deep I bet out.
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2008, 01:58:32 PM »

Min raise gives him good odds to play for a draw so that's bad.

If he's got something good enough to call a 3 x raise he'll probably call the shove anyway.

No good reason not to push it all in.
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2008, 03:12:24 PM »

How is $1k deep when its 2-5-10? You are playing with less than 100BB!

Obv just get it in

I would consider anything 200xBB and up as 'deep' (just my definition I'm sure it's wrong).  So if the stacks were at least that 'deep'  - what would the correct play be here?

By straddling though the BB is now effectively $10 so 1k is only 100bb
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2008, 03:37:14 PM »

How is $1k deep when its 2-5-10? You are playing with less than 100BB!

Obv just get it in

I would consider anything 200xBB and up as 'deep' (just my definition I'm sure it's wrong).  So if the stacks were at least that 'deep'  - what would the correct play be here?

By straddling though the BB is now effectively $10 so 1k is only 100bb

Yes - I'm saying if it was a different situation and the stacks were much bigger, or there wasn't a straddle.
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2008, 03:48:19 PM »

How is $1k deep when its 2-5-10? You are playing with less than 100BB!

Obv just get it in

I would consider anything 200xBB and up as 'deep' (just my definition I'm sure it's wrong).  So if the stacks were at least that 'deep'  - what would the correct play be here?

By straddling though the BB is now effectively $10 so 1k is only 100bb

Yes - I'm saying if it was a different situation and the stacks were much bigger, or there wasn't a straddle.

Oh right silly me.

I guess check call, hope for a brick to check jam?
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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2008, 03:58:31 PM »

Raise to 300 and if he pushes, meh.
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