dwain chambers should he be allowed to run or not ?

[kinboshi]

Let him run there all on it.

100% Spot On.

No they're not.  If you mean 100m runners, I think there are a greater percentage who are using drugs compared to other events - but I don't think they're all taking illegal substances.  As far as other events go, I know plenty of athletes who are cleaner than clean.

And I know a lot of athletes who are on 'roids  and i know for a fact that Linford and Colin Jackson were concerned with the supply to a number of athletes over a number of years.

I don't think everyone is on the gere, but I do believe that those at the very top level are indeed using PED!

Colin Jackson!  LOL.  Seriously doubt that, as he's one of the most vehement opponents to drug cheats, and has been all the way through his career.  You have evidence that makes your statement a FACT?

Christie - yeah, he's a cheat.  He's also an utter disgrace.

[Geo the Sarge]

Marion Jones was also a"vehement opponent" to drugs.............

Geo

[kinboshi]

Marion Jones was also a"vehement opponent" to drugs.............

Geo

...and Stalin was a communist.

[Geo the Sarge]

Marion Jones was also a"vehement opponent" to drugs.............

Geo

...and Stalin was a communist.

Obv wooshed, I don't get it.

My point was that just cos someone says they are against drugs in their sport don't neccessarily mean they don't take them. ask any athlete you like and they are obv gonna say "I don't do it"

geo

[GlasgowBandit]

Let him run there all on it.

100% Spot On.

No they're not.  If you mean 100m runners, I think there are a greater percentage who are using drugs compared to other events - but I don't think they're all taking illegal substances.  As far as other events go, I know plenty of athletes who are cleaner than clean.

And I know a lot of athletes who are on 'roids  and i know for a fact that Linford and Colin Jackson were concerned with the supply to a number of athletes over a number of years.

I don't think everyone is on the gere, but I do believe that those at the very top level are indeed using PED!

Colin Jackson!  LOL.  Seriously doubt that, as he's one of the most vehement opponents to drug cheats, and has been all the way through his career.  You have evidence that makes your statement a FACT?

Christie - yeah, he's a cheat.  He's also an utter disgrace.

Yes I have evidence.

Remember Linfords interview after he won gold in Barcelona?

[kinboshi]

Let him run there all on it.

100% Spot On.

No they're not.  If you mean 100m runners, I think there are a greater percentage who are using drugs compared to other events - but I don't think they're all taking illegal substances.  As far as other events go, I know plenty of athletes who are cleaner than clean.

And I know a lot of athletes who are on 'roids  and i know for a fact that Linford and Colin Jackson were concerned with the supply to a number of athletes over a number of years.

I don't think everyone is on the gere, but I do believe that those at the very top level are indeed using PED!

Colin Jackson!  LOL.  Seriously doubt that, as he's one of the most vehement opponents to drug cheats, and has been all the way through his career.  You have evidence that makes your statement a FACT?

Christie - yeah, he's a cheat.  He's also an utter disgrace.

Yes I have evidence.

Remember Linfords interview after he won gold in Barcelona?

Is the same evidence you have about Amir Khan?

[Pelham Boy]

Let him run there all on it.

100% Spot On.

No they're not.  If you mean 100m runners, I think there are a greater percentage who are using drugs compared to other events - but I don't think they're all taking illegal substances.  As far as other events go, I know plenty of athletes who are cleaner than clean.

And I know a lot of athletes who are on 'roids  and i know for a fact that Linford and Colin Jackson were concerned with the supply to a number of athletes over a number of years.

I don't think everyone is on the gere, but I do believe that those at the very top level are indeed using PED!

Colin Jackson!  LOL.  Seriously doubt that, as he's one of the most vehement opponents to drug cheats, and has been all the way through his career.  You have evidence that makes your statement a FACT?

Christie - yeah, he's a cheat.  He's also an utter disgrace.

Yes I have evidence.

Remember Linfords interview after he won gold in Barcelona?

Is the same evidence you have about Amir Khan?

lol.

[GlasgowBandit]

Let him run there all on it.

100% Spot On.

No they're not.  If you mean 100m runners, I think there are a greater percentage who are using drugs compared to other events - but I don't think they're all taking illegal substances.  As far as other events go, I know plenty of athletes who are cleaner than clean.

And I know a lot of athletes who are on 'roids  and i know for a fact that Linford and Colin Jackson were concerned with the supply to a number of athletes over a number of years.

I don't think everyone is on the gere, but I do believe that those at the very top level are indeed using PED!

Colin Jackson!  LOL.  Seriously doubt that, as he's one of the most vehement opponents to drug cheats, and has been all the way through his career.  You have evidence that makes your statement a FACT?

Christie - yeah, he's a cheat.  He's also an utter disgrace.

Yes I have evidence.

Remember Linfords interview after he won gold in Barcelona?

Is the same evidence you have about Amir Khan?

No.

[LLevan]

When Chambers took the drugs he knew the BOA by-law and as such he knew if caught he would never be able to run in any future Olympics but he made the choice to cheat. Regardless of whether he has served his time under the IOC rules Chambers was fully aware of the consequences of taking drugs and as such theres no way he should be allowed to take part in any future Olympic games. Personally I feel it's bad enough to see him wear an English or British vest and the publicity he's been getting is akin to making him into a martyr. He broke the rules end off.

[GlasgowBandit]

The BOA by-law is a joke.  Its akin to English clubs saying they are limiting the number of non Europeans allowed to play in the league.  Chambers has the Olympic qualifying time he has served his ban. 

[LeKnave]

And I know a lot of athletes who are on 'roids 

Like "Down-Town" Chad Brown? He is on teh roids'

made me crack up outloud. wp.

[Karabiner]

I'm not sure about this now, although morally he is guilty, legally Chambers has "done his time".

If it was such a bad offense surely he would have been given more"time" and not now be eligible for selection.

[kinboshi]

I'm not sure about this now, although morally he is guilty, legally Chambers has "done his time".

If it was such a bad offense surely he would have been given more"time" and not now be eligible for selection.

You cheat (and get caught) as a British athlete you know the rules.   I'm trying to think of a situation that's analogous, and all I can think of is what happens to football hooligans who serve a custodial sentence but even after their release they are banned from all football stadia for life.

Here's another question.  Does this photo fill you with pride or loathing?

[LLevan]

The BOA by-law is a joke.  Its akin to English clubs saying they are limiting the number of non Europeans allowed to play in the league.  Chambers has the Olympic qualifying time he has served his ban. 

Why is it a joke, either we want to try and do something to stop drugs cheats from taking part in sports or send out the message OK take a chance take drugs and you might get caught but you'll only serve a 2 year ban or in other words you'll be OK to compete in London 2012.
He hasn't served his time since at the time of his taking drugs the rules stated fail a drugs test and you can never compete in the Olympics again, allowing him to overturn the rules is sending the totally wrong message to kids out there and theres no way anyone caught cheating in the Olympics in Beijing should be allowed to serve a 2 year ban then come back in time to compete in London 2012.
Drug testing won't catch all the cheats but if we do nothing we might as well make it a free for all and just allow everyone to take whatever substances they like and see which scientists are the best.
Cheats should not be allowed to prosper whether it be to win medals or to gain financial rewards - Chambers had his chance to prove his worth without drugs but he got greedy and in the end got caught - like Kin said earlier in the thread what about the poor athletes from the relay squad that had to return their medals.
Drugs have no place in sport end of.

[Karabiner]

I'm not sure about this now, although morally he is guilty, legally Chambers has "done his time".

If it was such a bad offense surely he would have been given more"time" and not now be eligible for selection.

You cheat (and get caught) as a British athlete you know the rules.   I'm trying to think of a situation that's analogous, and all I can think of is what happens to football hooligans who serve a custodial sentence but even after their release they are banned from all football stadia for life.

Here's another question.  Does this photo fill you with pride or loathing?

I understand what you are saying, but why was he not given a longer sentence ?