Please Help:Am i a donkey,Good play or just vs another fish?

[Suited910]

If some of you poker people help me with this hand??

Was it the correct play?

Should i have maybe checked & pushed the turn whatever turned up,instead of leading out?



PokerStars Game #14536759611: Tournament #97447778, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level
IV (50/100) - 2008/07/23 - 08:44:18 (ET)
Table '97447778 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: carljmoore (1135 in chips)
Seat 3: tonyc0000 (2315 in chips)
Seat 4: wickedweazel (3375 in chips)
Seat 6: Suited910 (2580 in chips)
Seat 8: gabriela_m (2110 in chips)
Seat 9: hotel56 (1985 in chips)
wickedweazel: posts small blind 50
Suited910: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Suited910 [ ]
gabriela_m: folds
hotel56: folds
carljmoore: folds
tonyc0000: folds
wickedweazel: raises 200 to 300
Suited910: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [ ]
wickedweazel: checks
Suited910: bets 400
wickedweazel: raises 1900 to 2300
Suited910: calls 1880 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (20) returned to wickedweazel
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
wickedweazel: shows [ ] (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
Suited910: shows [ ] (a pair of Sixes)
wickedweazel collected 5160 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5160 | Rake 0
Board [ ]
Seat 2: carljmoore folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: tonyc0000 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: wickedweazel (small blind) showed [ ] and won (5160) with two pair,
Kings and Sixes
Seat 6: Suited910 (big blind) showed [ ] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 8: gabriela_m folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: hotel56 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I ran odds through hand match ups on that flop i was 54% fav...but still not happy

Cant believe the all in from my opponent when i led to be honest,K10 u must think your behind to set,made flush KJ etc....

I look back on it & maybe i should have pushed the flop instead of bettng out 400???

Any comments i would appreciate.


 

[Longy]

Is this a sng or an mtt. Looks like a sng

If so pass preflop, pushing the flop is fine imo. His call really isn't that bad given this is a bvb battle and there are tonnes of draws/ other random stuff you could have here.

[kinboshi]

He doesn't push the flop, he calls the push.

[Suited910]

Longy its SnG.

Still think if i go all in i'm getting called by this player....the all in on flop was the best in your opinion?

Still undecided about the hand.

Fold preflop probs was best but on that flop i'm not laying the hand down.

Reason i called opponent  was doing alot of button,sb raises so i thought i'd look the player up.

[the sicilian]

apart from position there wasnt too many reasons to call here....he made the play and this would usually be made with the A hearts in his hand which kills a most of your draws.. Let it go ...as ur assuming u have 15 outs when really you could have as little as 6

[Grier78]

Ok first thing I would say is that I would be all over a straight and flush draw on the flop, however there are a number of factors that you need to consider.

  on a   flop is not as strong as   on a   flop. As most of your outs would be dominated if he has the   or  .

He raised preflop from the SB so even if you don't put him on a big hand you can mark him as a frisky player, both ingredients for action on the flop.

With the size of the blinds in relation to the size of the stacks then its going to hard to get away from this but in my mind if you see this guy as being a really tight solid player then you should fold on the flop to the all-in re-raise as you are probably drawing dead or check and hope you hit your straight on the turn which you know will be good, however if the player is at all loose then get your chips in. BTW if you did think that he was tight solid then you should have folded pre-flop as there are loads of hands that dominate you that could get you in to loads of trouble.

Sorry its a bit messy above, ultimately whatever you do the odds are on that you will get all your chips in at some point during this hand but just be aware of if all your outs will be live.

Good luck.

[EvilPie]

I'd say fold pre for sure.

When he shoves the flop you were 54% fave but you can't know that at the time.

You know that he's either protecting something so doesn't want you to hit a flush or he's drawing to the flush himself and that's not going to be the 9.

If he's on the draw then you're maybe ahead now but I wouldn't be too confident. If he's got the  you're behind already and you're down to 6 (oops 5 sorry) outs for your pairs but you can't count on them.

You're still 19 BBs deep so fold and find a better spot.

[jakally]

I think you can check this on the flop, and fold to a blank turn, but once I've put the 400 in on the flop I'm probably going with it.

[TheChipPrince]

I think you can check this on the flop, and fold to a blank turn, but once I've put the 400 in on the flop I'm probably going with it.

I agree, i hate to be check raised here and am snapping his hand off for a free card... 

[cambo]

not really much to say on the hand apart from this is an insta muck pre

[Wardonkey]

If you're getting your blind raised consistently by the same player a push is a more effective response than calling.

[Royal Flush]

Cant believe the all in from my opponent when i led to be honest,K10 u must think your behind to set,made flush KJ etc....

[X] Quality level

Shame everyone else missed it

[Suited910]

Cant believe the all in from my opponent when i led to be honest,K10 u must think your behind to set,made flush KJ etc....

[X] Quality level

Shame everyone else missed it

Royal,Like you to explain what you mean by the above comment?

If i was in my opponents shoes i wouldnt be that confident with k10os on the 3 flush flop?Would you?

If i would have pushed all in on that flop would you snap call me?



Anyway reading your comments i think i played the hand v bad tbh.Was either a check on flop or all in on flop but i probably did the worst think...calling his push.

Anyway thanks all for your replies.


 

[boldie]

Cant believe the all in from my opponent when i led to be honest,K10 u must think your behind to set,made flush KJ etc....

[X] Quality level

Shame everyone else missed it

Royal,Like you to explain what you mean by the above comment?

If i was in my opponents shoes i wouldnt be that confident with k10os on the 3 flush flop?Would you?

If i would have pushed all in on that flop would you snap call me?



Anyway reading your comments i think i played the hand v bad tbh.Was either a check on flop or all in on flop but i probably did the worst think...calling his push.

Anyway thanks all for your replies.


 

Big difference between calling with K10 and pushing with it though mate...he might not have been confident he was ahead but he might have figured you could fold your hand.

[Royal Flush]

If i was in my opponents shoes i wouldnt be that confident with k10os on the 3 flush flop?Would you?

If i would have pushed all in on that flop would you snap call me?

I would yes, be a cold deck if i am behind BvB

I prob snap call and try to get my car keys in the pot as well