Now what?

[thetank]

matey in the hand had limped into almost every pot called most raises then would pass or shove not seen him get to many showdowns.

If he plays almost every hand, why do you need to see showdowns to know his pre-flop range?

When he re-re-re-raised you, you should have probably figured 3-5 was a possibility. Call maybe, but leave the fist pumping out.

[Newmanseye]

Preflop its such an ugly play IMHO, he obv tapped in to the luckbox lever and flopped it. We have all made the wrong move at some point and recieved a concussion from the deck.

The turn card is just

But post he played it to perfection, the turn is just to put Gary on life tilt

[EvilPie]

Can't see anything wrong with oppos pre flop play at all. It's cost him 400 of his 14.5k stack to potentially get paid handsomely. I'd say the implied odds here against a raiser are pretty awesome and more than justify his 300 extra that it cost him. He's looking for straights, flushes and two pair / trips against an overpair to get paid.

If he doesn't hit he can get away and he's left with 14k. Hardly a dent.

As the hand panned out it was a cooler and there was no escape. If you manage to find a fold then you're sh1t so no problem just get on with the next tournament.

WP, UL, GG etc.........

[Royal Flush]

lol how is calling 300 with 35 soooted bad?

[boldie]

Preflop its such an ugly play IMHO, he obv tapped in to the luckbox lever and flopped it.

Pot meet kettle

[EvilPie]

lol how is calling 300 with 35 soooted bad?

Because he should've raised with it!!!

At least then if he misses he can represent 

[Royal Flush]

lol how is calling 300 with 35 soooted bad?

Because he should've raised with it!!!

At least then if he misses he can represent 

Agreed i would rather see him open for 250/300 but i guess its ok to limp when the standard is probably poor like a $10 comp

[Rookie (Rodney)]

Suited connectors from EP are the nutsssssssssss

Raised to 325 from UTG at Luton y'day... obv flop 235. Rigged

[EvilPie]

lol how is calling 300 with 35 soooted bad?

Because he should've raised with it!!!

At least then if he misses he can represent 

Agreed i would rather see him open for 250/300 but i guess its ok to limp when the standard is probably poor like a $10 comp

I may have been hasty here. He's UTG so limp is probably acceptable. If you raise to 300 then get repopped to 1100 your implied odds are slashed dramatically and it's not an easy call. In fact I'd say it's a fold. Your not raising to steal in these tournaments so you need to see the flop.

I would say limping to call a 4 x raise is a decent idea from this position.

[thetank]

Breathes a sigh of relief. The sense has arrived.

[Flea]

I have to say this is one of the best PHA threads I've seen.

I'd never think of playing 35 suited UTG and calling a raise with it - I only ever seem to get busted by people with hands like that.

Can I ask a question though, if the raise to 400 isn't enough to get 35 suited to fold, what sort of raise should you make to get him to fold without it being a ridiculous over-bet?? (I know the answer is dependant on stack-size etc. but in general term if the blinds are 100/200 and say both player had about 5k).

[jakally]

Why do you want him to fold?
I'm happy he's putting money in the pot when I have the best hand.

[Flea]

because after the flop you don't!! but it's hard to see how stuff like 2nd best trips on a fairly raggy board after the turn are not ahead as you aren't putting opponent on Aces and how can you read them as on 35.

on an A 2 4 9 board (no flush) with pocket 9's, could you find a fold to a re-raise all-in from a UTG caller to your pre-flop raise to 4BB's?

Therefore I'd rather get hands like 3-5 out of the equation pre-flop.

[Rookie (Rodney)]

I have to say this is one of the best PHA threads I've seen.

I'd never think of playing 35 suited UTG and calling a raise with it - I only ever seem to get busted by people with hands like that.

Can I ask a question though, if the raise to 400 isn't enough to get 35 suited to fold, what sort of raise should you make to get him to fold without it being a ridiculous over-bet?? (I know the answer is dependant on stack-size etc. but in general term if the blinds are 100/200 and say both player had about 5k).

I don't think you understand completely here. If he limps at 100/200 playing 5k then I think that is pretty awful.

[MANTIS01]

Posted by: GlasgowBandit

This was the stars $11 deepstack matey in the hand had limped into almost every pot called most raises then would pass or shove not seen him get to many showdowns.

The mistake pre-flop if there is one is Bandit's standard raise. If this guy is limping light and calling most raises then charging him the standard price is a play that can be improved upon. We don't want him to fold and it doesn't look like he does if we charge him more...so charge the fecker more.