Heads up cash - at what point should I have folded?

[chrisbruce]

about 25 hands into a heads up game that has had a lot of pre flop aggression.

I feel i should be able to get away from stacking off here but at what point should I of folded?


***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 391603619 *****
NL $2.50/$5 Texas Hold'em - Monday, July 28, 22:37:28 GMT 2008
Table Berlin 157 2-max (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of active players : 2
Seat 1: MrMiami ( $623.62 )
Seat 2: Hitandrun ( $529 )
MrMiami posts small blind [$2.50]
Hitandrun posts big blind [$5]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hitandrun [ , ]
MrMiami raises to [$15]
Hitandrun raises to [$45]
MrMiami raises to [$162]
Hitandrun calls [$117]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
Hitandrun checks
MrMiami bets [$162]
Hitandrun goes all-in
Hitandrun raises to [$367]
MrMiami calls [$205]
** Showdown **
MrMiami shows [ , ]
Hitandrun shows [ , ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
** Hand Conclusion **
MrMiami wins $1,057 from main pot with a pair of Kings
************  Game 391603619 ends  ************

[TheChipPrince]

Without a very very very solid read and history on the player i'm not folding at any point here...

[boldie]

Without a very very very solid read and history on the player i'm not folding at any point here...

+1

[Newmanseye]

When you re-raised and were re- re-raised, What range do you have him on here?

Preflop its a pretty bold statement, preflop I am giving him credit for a hand.

If this was Live, I am probably folding pre, Given its online I make the call because I dont have the time to work through the hand I am calling and donking it off.

I await abuse.

[jakally]

Chris,

I think you either fold to the final reraise PF or go with it.
Calling pre then folding at any point after would be very bad.

Ranging a 4 bet as ahead of JJ is purely opponent / game dynamics dependent, but HU JJ is massive and many opponents will play this strong 99+, AQ+ (or lighter).

[Longy]

Chris,

I think you either fold to the final reraise PF or go with it.
Calling pre then folding at any point after would be very bad.

Ranging a 4 bet as ahead of JJ is purely opponent / game dynamics dependent, but HU JJ is massive and many opponents will play this strong 99+, AQ+ (or lighter).

+1

[snoopy1239]

If there has been a lot of aggression preflop, and this pattern of preflop raises has occurred before, then the hand is a bit of a cooler. If not, and this sequence of events is a rarity, then you should make up your mind whether you're going to fold or not preflop. Calling the final raise and seeing a flop out of position doesn't work for me.

[action man]

LOL at you getting any action with a name like hitandrun in HU cash.

If you fold this at any point you will be exploaitable in hu cash imo

[chrisbruce]

Thanks for the comments.

I am still undecided about this hand but obv hard not to stack here.

[TheChipPrince]

Thanks for the comments.

I am still undecided about this hand but obv hard not to stack here.

At what point do you think you could have made a different decision?

[Rupert]

I'd shove pre or fold pre.  Honestly with reads I could fold this preflop but after 25 hands i'd have a tough time doing so especially if you've been actively 3 betting him.  I think shoving pre is far superior to flatting since the lower part of his range is still going to have decent equity vs you (big queens/kings/aces) and any big pair is going in after the flop anyway.  If your intention is to call and shut down on any ace/king high flop then you should get it in pre or fold preflop.  Given that you've called, folding on that flop would be epically exploitable.  Villain would just 4 bet you every hand (since you don't even shove jacks!) and then bet every single flop (since you're considering folding jacks!).  But ya, its a cooler whatever, ul

[AlexMartin]

I'd shove pre or fold pre.  Honestly with reads I could fold this preflop but after 25 hands i'd have a tough time doing so especially if you've been actively 3 betting him.  I think shoving pre is far superior to flatting since the lower part of his range is still going to have decent equity vs you (big queens/kings/aces) and any big pair is going in after the flop anyway.  If your intention is to call and shut down on any ace/king high flop then you should get it in pre or fold preflop.  Given that you've called, folding on that flop would be epically exploitable.  Villain would just 4 bet you every hand (since you don't even shove jacks!) and then bet every single flop (since you're considering folding jacks!).  But ya, its a cooler whatever, ul

this is gooooood.