hand against alexis martine

[byronkincaid]

so the good thing about playing live is you get to think about all the hands you misplayed, I've drunk all the beer in the house and still can't get to sleep grrrr

this hand seems really simple but i can't work it out. I have about 6K blinds 100/200 alexis has me well covered. I raise to 600 with JJ, alexis calls in position.

flop A rag rag rainbow call it 8 4 or something.

I am well out of practise in tournaments, in cash my usual line in a vacuum is to C/C the flop. When we bet we are looking to either get better hands to fold or get worse hands to call. I think he 3 bets QQ and KK pre and I'm not folding out any Ace so I'm not folding out better hands if i C bet. Will worse hands call? maybe TT but basically no I don't think so.

so I check and alexia bets 850 I think and fck me that seems a big old chunk of my stack cos I am used to playing 100+ BBs and being on auto reload so I dunno what to do and eventually fold. But random air is a big part of his range here I think he can be betting JT to get me to fold my KQ or JJ lol. so i think B/F sucks as well.

so would it be good to turn my hand into a bluff and push? maybe I get AT and lower to fold? or is this just a totally obv C bet and I'm getting cash game stuff mixed up with tournament stuff and just played this hand like a pussy.

nothing seems that great. I have put my flame proof pants on, do your worst

[Longy]

Like you i go into check/call mode on these flops and would probably have done that, problem with that is the turn if anything but a jack rolls off what is our play.

I have never played Alex but if his PHA posts are anything to go by he will have you on a hand like KK-1010 and will fire another bullet with alot of his range. Which is what makes this hand pretty crappy.

[LeKnave]

Like you i go into check/call mode on these flops and would probably have done that, problem with that is the turn if anything but a jack rolls off what is our play.

I have never played Alex but if his PHA posts are anything to go by he will have you on a hand like KK-1010 and will fire another bullet with alot of his range. Which is what makes this hand pretty crappy.

i agree with this, vs an oppo like alex hes shelling every turn and probs every river too.  its going to be really hard to get it to showdown, so im in favour of c/f the flop.

[maldini32]

Against Alex shooooooovvvvvvvvve!
He loves to call in position, then a) hit a sexy flop or b) take it away from u if he thinks ur weak.

But srsly m8 its a nasty spot and pass is the way to go in this hand, if u were deeper u could a) call reasses turn b) liike u said turn ur hand into a bluff c/r flop....but meh.

[Longy]

Im starting to think i like check raise shoving, as Alex is stabbing with so many hands that he can't call a shove with. Risky play but it maybe the best, it does turn our hand into a bluff but does that really matter here.

I liked to see the maths on this.

[MC]

It's either check fold to a bet, I think I prefer continuation bet and fold to a shove and perhaps shut down if he calls...

Check shove is a bit too risky I think, He's calling with pretty much any Ace I'd suggest...

[MANTIS01]

I can't think of a better flop for a c-bet than this one. The problem with your approach here Byron is that you are thinking a lot about your oppo's hand, what he could do, what's going to happen, how you will answer his questions when he does a, b, or c, when in reality all your oppo has done is call a raise pre-flop. Let's be the one getting him to be dealing with these questions and giving him this worry. Just tickle out a lowish 700. You may very well get worse hands folding but you still win a pot rather than losing one. Not ideal, but the flop isn't ideal for your hand, it's only ideal for a c-bet. I don't like c-r shoving one bit because I don't know what hand you would do this with that tells a believable story.

[T_Mar]

I think I would def c-bet this flop, would imagine Alex's range is pretty wide here... checking just lets him bet with 100% of his range and put you in the situation you in now of folding the highly likely best hand. 

[MANTIS01]

I think I would def c-bet this flop, would imagine Alex's range is pretty wide here... checking just lets him bet with 100% of his range and put you in the situation you in now of folding the highly likely best hand. 

Exactly that. The flop that comes down has blown it for the jacks so we just want to shut this hand down and move on. A c-bet on this rainbow A-high board is going to get through a lot of the time. Result is you win a pot by betting out and prevent your oppo from winning a pot by betting himself. This is a basic strat for sure but if you decide to play this hand through the streets by c-calling you will never be confident about it. No need to make things difficult for yourself. If he has an A he will give you action, but you will have only put 700 out there, whereas if you c-r you are putting a lot more in to find out. The risk isn't worth your oppos 1 bet imo.

[action man]

this hand really depends on what his perception of you is. If he feels you are weak then he is calling a lot of hands in position, merely to take it away later on.
This flop has not hit alex that often and apart from a set of 4's or maybe AA, i would expect alex to 3-bet AK-AJ if he were to play them. I think his range is pretty much  rag soooooooooted ace or air  and if he sees you as a "live donk", a small check raise even check-min raise may work a treat.
Of all alex's calling range this flop doesnt hit him that often, so im never going to be check-folding the flop here.