The Grosvenor Grand Prix is back!

[RED-DOG]

We are getting away from the issue though - do we want, & support, Embedded Reg Fees?

Me personally? No.

[phatomch]

That may be flawed - don't forget that they run Online Satellites, too, which changes the ££ dynamics.


But they still charge a fee online to play in those sats, so it wouldn't change the sums really

[tikay]

That may be flawed - don't forget that they run Online Satellites, too, which changes the ££ dynamics.


But they still charge a fee online to play in those sats, so it wouldn't change the sums really

OMG - Blue Square charge Session Fees Online now?

[Colchester Kev]

That may be flawed - don't forget that they run Online Satellites, too, which changes the ££ dynamics.


But they still charge a fee online to play in those sats, so it wouldn't change the sums really

OMG - Blue Square charge Session Fees Online now?

Play on blonde FTW

[tikay]

That may be flawed - don't forget that they run Online Satellites, too, which changes the ££ dynamics.


But they still charge a fee online to play in those sats, so it wouldn't change the sums really

No, I don't think they would can charge a Reg Fee Online if the Live Supers are reg free?

[phatomch]

watch it  

[tikay]

watch it  

You would not hit an old man. Would you?

[phatomch]

That may be flawed - don't forget that they run Online Satellites, too, which changes the ££ dynamics.


But they still charge a fee online to play in those sats, so it wouldn't change the sums really

No, I don't think they would can charge a Reg Fee Online if the Live Supers are reg free?

I was working out last years total money in fees taken compared to the same number this year

[AlrightJack]

A few more things about the Grand Prix that have not been mentioned much or at all yet:

-It's £50 this year, which means it should make it affordable to more people than in the past.
-The live satellites all take place on the same day at the same time (Saturday afternoons), with the exception of some addtional ones in Walsall in the week leading up to the event. Grosvenor simply would not be able to do this as fully dealer dealt. Had they tried to, many clubs would not have taken part. As it is, you have to deal, but you can play in any of the Grosvenor or G casinos with a card room. This was another reason to drop the buy in to £50, as a £100 self deal would have been unacceptable. 
-The online satellites take place on Thursdays
-The Grand Prix is a part of the GUKPT this year, so the winners of all events (side events included) get a seat in the Champion of Champions event. The winner of the Grand Prix itself gets a seat in the GUKPT Grand Final.
-10,000 chips, an hour clock (same structure as GUKPT main events, but without running antes).
-Two starting days, two further days to complete the tournament.
-Trophies, which if you're lucky, I might drop...

[Royal Flush]

I have little doubt that it wont be repeated if the players' reaction is bad.

The perfect answer, thanks. It's up to the players now, as simple as that!

Had no intention of playing it but might spite play it now!

You'd get mullered - it's Pot-Limit.......

Because i bet more than the pot in NL.....

[phatomch]

watch it  

You would not hit an old man. Would you?

ok maybe not hit but deffo  ;m3boy;

[AndrewT]

A few more things about the Grand Prix that have not been mentioned much or at all yet:

-It's £50 this year, which means it should make it affordable to more people than in the past.
-The live satellites all take place on the same day at the same time (Saturday afternoons), with the exception of some addtional ones in Walsall in the week leading up to the event. Grosvenor simply would not be able to do this as fully dealer dealt. Had they tried to, many clubs would not have taken part. As it is, you have to deal, but you can play in any of the Grosvenor or G casinos with a card room. This was another reason to drop the buy in to £50 - as a £100 self deal would have been unacceptable. 
-The online satellites take place on Thursdays
-The Grand Prix is a part of the GUKPT this year, so the winners of all events (side events included) get a seat in the Champion of Champions event. The winner of the Grand Prix itself gets a seat in the GUKPT Grand Final.
-10,000 chips, an hour clock (same structure as GUKPT main events, but without running antes).
-Two starting days, two further days to complete the tournament.
-Trophies, which if you're lucky, I might drop...

When is it?

[phatomch]

A few more things about the Grand Prix that have not been mentioned much or at all yet:

-It's £50 this year, which means it should make it affordable to more people than in the past.
-The live satellites all take place on the same day at the same time (Saturday afternoons), with the exception of some addtional ones in Walsall in the week leading up to the event. Grosvenor simply would not be able to do this as fully dealer dealt. Had they tried to, many clubs would not have taken part. As it is, you have to deal, but you can play in any of the Grosvenor or G casinos with a card room. This was another reason to drop the buy in to £50, as a £100 self deal would have been unacceptable. 
-The online satellites take place on Thursdays
-The Grand Prix is a part of the GUKPT this year, so the winners of all events (side events included) get a seat in the Champion of Champions event. The winner of the Grand Prix itself gets a seat in the GUKPT Grand Final.
-10,000 chips, an hour clock (same structure as GUKPT main events, but without running antes).
-Two starting days, two further days to complete the tournament.
-Trophies, which if you're lucky, I might drop...

If its a 4 day event are you only having this and the gukpt m/e for the walsall leg?

[AlrightJack]

Obviously there are no session fees, reg fees or whatever you want to call them in the online sats either.

As far as freezeouts are concerned, I think there is very little difference between raking the pool or charging a reg fee. If anything, making it a bit cheaper for people to play may be a good thing at present, credit cruch and all that. Ther vast majority of people lose at poker, so most players will be better off not having to fork out the additional fee. Rebuys are obviously different.

[Royal Flush]

I actually thinking about it don't see a problem with rake in a rebuy, i am happy to pay £20 juice on a £200 comp so why would i object in paying £10 in a £50r where the average buyin is 200.

I still get tilted by the swathes of people who can't figure out that rake and reg fee are the same.

Wow, that was a quick U-Turn! On Page 1, you said......well, you know what you said!

why would i object in paying £10 in a £50r where the average buyin is 200.

I don't understand that.  If you had a (£50) Buy-In & 3 Rebuys that'd be £200 + £20, which is absolutely fine.

That, as you know, it not my point.

I still get tilted by the swathes of people who can't figure out that rake and reg fee are the same.

Life-Tilt incoming......

I am not to stubborn to realise that when i jump to an opinion on something i may have over-reacted....unlike some