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« on: August 28, 2008, 10:43:43 PM »

Thoughts on this please?

PokerStars Game #19971648580: Tournament #103653338, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (175/350) - 2008/08/28 - 17:36:25 (ET)
Table '103653338 27' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: lexx2007 (13368 in chips)
Seat 2: 399 CSI (19630 in chips)
Seat 3: blu killer (6849 in chips)
Seat 4: OLADIZ72 (12920 in chips)
Seat 5: cheaps (14205 in chips)
Seat 6: Graham0573 (18207 in chips)
Seat 7: zocker270777 (17460 in chips)
Seat 8: peiscottster (17475 in chips)
Seat 9: POKERBUMM13 (20585 in chips)
lexx2007: posts the ante 45
399 CSI: posts the ante 45
blu killer: posts the ante 45
OLADIZ72: posts the ante 45
cheaps: posts the ante 45
Graham0573: posts the ante 45
zocker270777: posts the ante 45
peiscottster: posts the ante 45
POKERBUMM13: posts the ante 45
cheaps: posts small blind 175
Graham0573: posts big blind 350
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Graham0573 [ ]
zocker270777: folds
peiscottster: folds
POKERBUMM13: raises 700 to 1050
lexx2007: folds
399 CSI: folds
blu killer: folds
OLADIZ72: folds
cheaps: folds
Graham0573: calls 700
*** FLOP *** [Two Clubs ]
Graham0573: bets 1050
POKERBUMM13: calls 1050
*** TURN *** [Two Clubs ]
Graham0573: bets 2100
POKERBUMM13: calls 2100
*** RIVER *** [Two Clubs ] [Ah]
Graham0573: Huh?
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2008, 10:46:58 PM »

3 bet to 3333 pre and call a shove imo.

As played i would check call the turn, we are way ahead/way behind his range apart from the small bits of his range that are flush draws. Check the river and sigh.
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2008, 10:50:04 PM »

re-raise pre

cant see how you're winning on the river, something yucky, wouldnt be surprised to see him show A high FD



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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2008, 10:59:21 PM »

Cheers, should have raised pre, must have had a moment!

I checked the river, he bet 6.3k and I folded.   Annoyingly he showed the missed FD with J9s
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2008, 11:48:36 PM »

I like the call pre, i hate the flop bet, what are you doing on the turn if he raises, why do you check fold the river?
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2008, 11:50:12 PM »

the flo bet is fundamentally bad graham m8 without history and knowing opponent.
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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2008, 11:50:50 PM »

I like the call pre, i hate the flop bet, what are you doing on the turn if he raises, why do you check fold the river?

at this level with these stacks you like the flat pre from BB?
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2008, 11:57:46 PM »

hmmm, mistakes obv made.  I figured if I don't lead out on the flop, I'm probably going to check/fold and I didn't want too yet and I thought I was ahead at this point.  I lead out on the turn for the same reason I think, I didn't think about it enough.   The ace on the river wasn't nice to see and I automatically assumed he had one.

I'll get there.
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2008, 12:07:04 AM »

I like the call pre, i hate the flop bet, what are you doing on the turn if he raises, why do you check fold the river?

at this level with these stacks you like the flat pre from BB?

Yeah for sure, what is the benefit of the RR?

hmmm, mistakes obv made.  I figured if I don't lead out on the flop, I'm probably going to check/fold and I didn't want too yet and I thought I was ahead at this point.  I lead out on the turn for the same reason I think, I didn't think about it enough.   The ace on the river wasn't nice to see and I automatically assumed he had one.

I'll get there.

You think you are probably ahead so why would you check fold? I really don't get that, you flat called pre so your hand is right at the top end of your range, your opponent has no idea you are this strong, not only that he will VB worse hands!

So on the turn what do you do if he raises?

What Ax hand does he have to call a flop and turn bet?
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2008, 12:14:38 AM »

I've been thinking about it and I'm not sure.   I need to think about it more in game.  I feel all rushed and do things without thinking them through properly.

Prob why I sucked at cash tbh.
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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2008, 12:19:14 AM »

what is the benefit of the reraise

It's a $10 multi, you dont have to go out of your way to disguise your hands or mix up your play, flatting pre just makes a tricky hand OOP even trickier on the flop.

what Ax does he have to call a flop and turn bet

unknown oppos range in a $10 multi is so huge i'm not surprised by any holding inc an Ace and all sorts of other shit hands that have us crushed by the river, most of the time i think we're beat here.


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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2008, 01:54:53 AM »

id never fold the river if I played the hand like this. You are playing it like this for a reason!

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