Is it ever right to fold KK pre-flop 3 handed

[bolt pp]

His ranges is probably something like aq+, 1010+ here and qq is ahead of this range. Loads of dead money in there, just shove and hope not to get insta-called.

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[Longy]

I would deffo flat most of the time. RRing puts your hand faceup, which makes it unlikely he's gonna call w wosre......plus i like the added benefit of having loads of squeeze monkeys behind. He is tight so you should be able to read him pretty easy postflop as he's rarely going to get out of line.

Alex i like your play alot more in a standard online game, where you will often get this pot heads up with position. In a live game at DTD you are getting cold called alot by the straddlers, behind you. Making playing the flop, really nasty as you will in effect be sandwiched by the fact the tight player will fire alot of flop with his range and you will be making a decision with people still left to act.

In a live 1/2 game this doesn't get squeezed alot preflop in my experience.

[doubleup]

RRing puts your hand faceup, which makes it unlikely he's gonna call w wosre......

That might be true but there is probably enough money in the pot to make it irrelevant.

[NoflopsHomer]

I would deffo flat most of the time. RRing puts your hand faceup, which makes it unlikely he's gonna call w wosre......plus i like the added benefit of having loads of squeeze monkeys behind. He is tight so you should be able to read him pretty easy postflop as he's rarely going to get out of line.

Alex i like your play alot more in a standard online game, where you will often get this pot heads up with position. In a live game at DTD you are getting cold called alot by the straddlers, behind you. Making playing the flop, really nasty as you will in effect be sandwiched by the fact the tight player will fire alot of flop with his range and you will be making a decision with people still left to act.

In a live 1/2 game this doesn't get squeezed alot preflop in my experience.

+1

[kinboshi]

No one consider a fold here?

[EvilPie]

No one consider a fold here?

 

You folded didn't you? Go on admit it. You folded.......

[thetank]

id fold KK 3 handed if it was a sat with 2 seats to a billion pound fortune and a room in the playboy Mansion. But only if i had my oppo's covered by 300bb and needed a piss.

This post needs more love.

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[EvilPie]

id fold KK 3 handed if it was a sat with 2 seats to a billion pound fortune and a room in the playboy Mansion. But only if i had my oppo's covered by 300bb and needed a piss.

                

[kinboshi]

No one consider a fold here?

 

You folded didn't you? Go on admit it. You folded.......

Yes, I did.

The SB showed KK.  Like I said, the SB was very tight, and with the straddlers still to act he had to know he was going to get at least one customer (which he did).  Any other player at the table, and I think I would have re-popped him - although I do like Alex's line with the call as well now.

[MereNovice]

No one consider a fold here?

 

You folded didn't you? Go on admit it. You folded.......

Yes, I did.

The SB showed KK.  Like I said, the SB was very tight, and with the straddlers still to act he had to know he was going to get at least one customer (which he did).  Any other player at the table, and I think I would have re-popped him - although I do like Alex's line with the call as well now.

Ooh ooh, please sir, I said it first. Or did I give the wrong reasoning? 

[kinboshi]

I just couldn't see what he could have that I was beating, other than JJ and I thought that unlikely.  It was the combination of his tightness and the LAGs still to act that convinced me that he wanted callers or even better for him, raisers.

If he'd bet £30 or less, I might have been tempted to call and set-mine, knowing that I could stack him if he did indeed have AA or KK - and hopefully I'd have another couple of passengers along for the ride.

But with the size of his bet and the size of the stacks at the table, I just didn't think I could call.  So it was either a re-raise, or a fold.  A re-raise would see me committed, so it would have to be a shove wouldn't it?

I just thought that it was too likely that he had me crushed, and looking back I think that I'd put him on too narrow a range - he might have done the same with TT or JJ.

[AlexMartin]

I just couldn't see what he could have that I was beating, other than JJ and I thought that unlikely.  It was the combination of his tightness and the LAGs still to act that convinced me that he wanted callers or even better for him, raisers.

If he'd bet £30 or less, I might have been tempted to call and set-mine, knowing that I could stack him if he did indeed have AA or KK - and hopefully I'd have another couple of passengers along for the ride.

But with the size of his bet and the size of the stacks at the table, I just didn't think I could call.  So it was either a re-raise, or a fold.  A re-raise would see me committed, so it would have to be a shove wouldn't it?

I just thought that it was too likely that he had me crushed, and looking back I think that I'd put him on too narrow a range - he might have done the same with TT or JJ.

nothing wrong with trusting your gut m8.

[Dingdell]

I couldn't fold KK at the DTD £300 and all the chips were in the middle preflop against aces. Obv the wrong call but I couldn't get away from it. It was a relatively big comp and I should have been able to get away with it at that early stage but I couldn't, I really thought he was on a steal.