Unlucky or victim of a donkey call?

[PocketLady]

If Blodge99 is looking to improve his poker skills then he has come to the right place. If he is looking to meet people, make new friends, and discuss the environment, I would suggest The Lounge is ftw. There is no real need to pussyfoot about telling someone there's nothing to see here. This is the first thing Blodge99 has learnt today. Pocket Lady agrees that Blodge99 just got unlucky in his hand, so what constructive advice can be given? New posters should beware that they have access to some of the greatest poker minds on the web at Blonde, FACT! So don't mess us about with just unlucky hands! Lesson 2 for Blodge99 today is that it is good to develop a thick skin for poker. Don't care what people say just develop your knowledge by using the board. So we can see that Blodge99 has actually learnt a lot from Blonde PHA today. He is a better player. The best thing is that he got all that for free. Well done Blodge. He doesn't learn anything if you tell him he got unlucky.
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Welcome to Blonde99, don't be messin us with just unlucky hands.

What I am getting at is that he obviously does not know whether he got unlucky or not, otherwise he wouldn't be posting asking us what he did wrong.  This is an educational board, and the lesson to be learnt by Blodge from whoever wants to give advice is that this was unlucky, and it's normally fairly safe to slow play this.  There is NEVER a need for putting people down or making them feel like idiots in a learning environment.  If you want to take the piss out of your friends or regular posters (or real inconsiderate trolls) then go for it.  But this kind of behaviour towards a new poster asking a harmless question is not going to make him want to come back to blonde.  Once upon a time every member of this forum would not have known the answer to the original question, unless you have been playing poker in the womb.  With regards to pussyfooting, you can say it as directly as you want, but not in a "omg you're thick" kind of way.  There are ways of getting points across and Bolt's comments were totally unnecessary. 

There is nothing wrong with the OP in my opinion.  What ever the level it's still a PHA question, but if people feel it's not perhaps a board should be created for beginner questions only so that we don't bother you "great minds" with helping out a novice player.

If you think it's a waste of your time then just don't reply.  Simple.
 

[MANTIS01]

Pocket Lady . I would suggest you are being more diesrespectful to Blodge than me. He knows very well he got unlucky. I give him this much credit at least. The reason he posted was because he wanted to spend 50p very badly, and because he wanted to tilt us all. He has done both. But we surprised him with the wax-on wax-off Karate Kid treatment and now he has skillz. Saying he doesn't know he got unlucky is calling Blodge a retard imo.

[Royal Flush]

[  ] OP played the hand well

[bolt pp]

If Blodge99 is looking to improve his poker skills then he has come to the right place. If he is looking to meet people, make new friends, and discuss the environment, I would suggest The Lounge is ftw. There is no real need to pussyfoot about telling someone there's nothing to see here. This is the first thing Blodge99 has learnt today. Pocket Lady agrees that Blodge99 just got unlucky in his hand, so what constructive advice can be given? New posters should beware that they have access to some of the greatest poker minds on the web at Blonde, FACT! So don't mess us about with just unlucky hands! Lesson 2 for Blodge99 today is that it is good to develop a thick skin for poker. Don't care what people say just develop your knowledge by using the board. So we can see that Blodge99 has actually learnt a lot from Blonde PHA today. He is a better player. The best thing is that he got all that for free. Well done Blodge. He doesn't learn anything if you tell him he got unlucky.
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Welcome to Blonde99, don't be messin us with just unlucky hands.

What I am getting at is that he obviously does not know whether he got unlucky or not, otherwise he wouldn't be posting asking us what he did wrong  This is an educational board, and the lesson to be learnt by Blodge from whoever wants to give advice is that this was unlucky, and it's normally fairly safe to slow play this.  There is NEVER a need for putting people down or making them feel like idiots in a learning environment.  If you want to take the piss out of your friends or regular posters (or real inconsiderate trolls) then go for it.  But this kind of behaviour towards a new poster asking a harmless question is not going to make him want to come back to blonde.  Once upon a time every member of this forum would not have known the answer to the original question, unless you have been playing poker in the womb.  With regards to pussyfooting, you can say it as directly as you want, but not in a "omg you're thick" kind of way.  There are ways of getting points across and Bolt's comments were totally unnecessary. 

There is nothing wrong with the OP in my opinion.  What ever the level it's still a PHA question, but if people feel it's not perhaps a board should be created for beginner questions only so that we don't bother you "great minds" with helping out a novice player.

If you think it's a waste of your time then just don't reply.  Simple.
 

lol, absoloute bollox, OP knows exactly what happend in this hand, he just want's everyone to say: "omfg, that's so sick, you played it so well, that's just unlucky, wow ive never seen something like that before in my life, your opponent is so bad, unlucky man"!!!! YAWN!!!!!!

As for ostracising newbies?  70% of the "general chat" being restricted to three diary threads already thousands of pages long is more likely to do that.

[david3103]

As for ostracising newbies?  70% of the "general chat" being restricted to three diary threads already thousands of pages long is more likely to do that.

+1

[ ] The beginners board is gentler on the less exalted players

[ ] David is learning about more than just poker from his experiences on this forum

[blodge99]

Thanks for the feedback, mainly helpful.

To the people who critiscised me for posting this - Yes I knew I was unlucky in the hand, most of the time I will win the hand as the other player will have nowt. I posted because I wanted other peoples points of view as out of the group I play with, a few of them said I lost the hand because I played it badly.
I've been readin the site for a few years without posting, and just felt that this was as good a time as any to start.

[PocketLady]

Pocket Lady . I would suggest you are being more diesrespectful to Blodge than me. He knows very well he got unlucky. I give him this much credit at least. The reason he posted was because he wanted to spend 50p very badly, and because he wanted to tilt us all. He has done both. But we surprised him with the wax-on wax-off Karate Kid treatment and now he has skillz. Saying he doesn't know he got unlucky is calling Blodge a retard imo.

I took the post at face value, maybe that was a mistake but still not seeing any evidence to suggest that it was anything more than someone looking for advice.

As for ostracising newbies?  70% of the "general chat" being restricted to three diary threads already thousands of pages long is more likely to do that.

I do happen to agree with that, but unless you can say with absolute certainty from one post that this thread is not genuine, then there's no need to make new posters feel unwelcome.  Maybe you didn't, buti if I was met by that greeting after my first post I wouldn't feel welcome at all.

[Royal Flush]

Thanks for the feedback, mainly helpful.

To the people who critiscised me for posting this - Yes I knew I was unlucky in the hand, most of the time I will win the hand as the other player will have nowt. I posted because I wanted other peoples points of view as out of the group I play with, a few of them said I lost the hand because I played it badly.
I've been readin the site for a few years without posting, and just felt that this was as good a time as any to start.

You lost the hand because you were unlucky, you just happened to also play it badly.

[Robert HM]

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=20524.msg460472#msg460472

[bolt pp]

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=20524.msg460472#msg460472

well then there should be a balance in which the mods(whom moderating on a poker forum you would expect to have a reasonable understanding about poker)should intercede/remove threads of such a ridiculous nature!

you guy's are moderating the forum, it's your job to look out for this stuff, not ours, and there should be a fairness applied to newbies and long standing members alike.

Origional Posts like this should be treated then in the same fashion in which the riposts in provokes are

[TightEnd]

There was no problem with the original post, from a new poster asking advice. 

Several replies to the poster clearly contravened what the aim of the board is, by being overly sarcastic and ridiculing what was a reasonable enough question (albeit with a simple enough answer) and we're grateful to members who made this clear earlier on the thread

[tikay]

Why do so many people post such unfriendly replies to others when they start threads like these?

Shouldnt comments be constructive, helpful and friendly rather than unwelcoming? Ok to most of us this hand shouldnt be on here but a new poster who probably doesnt have the experience most people have is trying to get a bit of advice and people are trying to shoot him down.

Agreed totally. It's very sad to see folks deliberately being rude, sarcatic, & obdurate, which goes against the whole ethos of blonde, & this Board in particular.

Very difficult to know what to do to prevent it, to be honest. Every time we give someone a cooler or a Ban there are outraged howls of protest.

Looks like another pleasant evening in prospect.

[NoflopsHomer]

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=20524.msg460472#msg460472

well then there should be a balance in which the mods(whom moderating on a poker forum you would expect to have a reasonable understanding about poker)should intercede/remove threads of such a ridiculous nature!

All hand queries are relative to person making them, something that is easier for some might not be easy for others. If it bugs you so much then....erm....don't read it?

you guy's are moderating the forum, it's your job to look out for this stuff, not ours, and there should be a fairness applied to newbies and long standing members alike.

Thanks for going where we clearly fear to tread.

Origional Posts like this should be treated then in the same fashion in which the riposts in provokes are

People come asking for help and others laugh in their face, how should we treat the latter?

[bhoywonder]

For R flush...wasn.t the op heading for max value,then got 2 outered on the river?just curious,was it played so bad??not being critical of your criticism.how would you get max value without chasing him away?

[Royal Flush]

If i knew he was going to turn top pair then i would have checked the flop as well.

However when i have a loose passive player i am just firing 3 streets here, you win a shit load more in the long term.