Was this bad play - not by me tho'

[johnbhoy76]

Well you're the one resorting to name calling.

The scenario you described is just a tpical car crash big pocket pair versus big pokcet pair that you always get in the later stages of an MTT when the blinds are large.

As has been said by other posters, would this thread be here if your aces held up?

to me the anwer is no and therefore this is a bad beat story

[RED-DOG]

Hello Mr Dawg.

Please be aware that blonde has a no flaming policy which applies to everyone, including you.

[deputydawg]

Hello Mr Dawg.

Please be aware that blonde has a no flaming policy which applies to everyone, including you.

No problems Red, I just find that some members judge everyone by their own standards. Perhaps those that make smart arse commenst should also be warned that it runs against the ethos of the PHA board but I guess that will depend whether they are in the clique, or not

[TightEnd]

Mr Dawg,

We moderate every PHA thread, and read every post. Nothing to do with supposed "cliques", if we'd seen anything wrong we'd have done something

Sure posters occasionally need a slightly thicker skin than normal on this board as its easy to confuse light hearted fun with "being a smart arse", the written word can disguise people's intentions and tone.

If you have any problems, PM a mod and we'll discuss, rather than you yourself flaming in public

thank you

FWIW, not a lot, I though the hand played itself

[deputydawg]

Apologies to anyone I have caused offence to if your comments were meant in a genuine constructive manner. I appreciate the different viewpoints which are split both ways which was all i wanted to find out in the first place

[EvilPie]

he had played with me all day and I had played nothing worse.

You made the final 4 playing only AA, KK and AK?

this is now a bit pointless so let's end the thread as I said earlier that I had doubled thru' with QQ and that the worst I had been seen to 3 bet with all day was AK. Perhaps if that isn't understandable then I would rather get comments from those who can.

well what is it that you're wanting people to say?

The guy had QQ the 3rd best starting hand. OK a tight player has re-raised so he might give some thought to folding but going all-in is hardly the worst move I've ever seen.

In short I think this is a poorly disguised bad beat story.

Dawg

If you read pha a lot you will see that this particular comment is used very regularly when describing a cooler. It is not intended to offend it just means you lost when you got in with the best of it so unlucky.

I can't see why QQ would get away from this hand at this stage of a tournament.

Your range has to include any decent ace and 10 10 + to reraise from here surely so his shove may well be winning and he still has decent FE against AQ and possibly even AK.

Can I ask what you would've done if you'd had QQ, AK or KK in this situation? Do you call his shove given the strength of his action. I assume you make a similar reraise with these hands but what do you put him on when he goes all in?

If he should lay down QQ to your strength then should you lay down KK to his greater strength?

[LuckyLloyd]

deputydawg, you should use this thread to improve your game. By the sounds of things your 3 - betting range is far, far too tight. If someone can be expected to fold QQ and 26BBs to one of your 3 - bets then your game is fundamentally flawed.

[TheChipPrince]

Again, for me, you played it well, mateyboy played it as I would, and you just got unlucky. I'd really struggle to fold QQ in his spot...

[MANTIS01]

Queens man can't rate you for A-A/K-K after you requested the bb's hand be declared dead before any action. I suspect you didn't know you had A-A before you made that comment. If you DID know you had A-A then that is a world class remark imo.

[deputydawg]

Queens man can't rate you for A-A/K-K after you requested the bb's hand be declared dead before any action. I suspect you didn't know you had A-A before you made that comment. If you DID know you had A-A then that is a world class remark imo.

lol ty which was why I mentioned making the remark in the first place. I didn't know at the time I made the remark I had AA but realised it could 'work in my favour' after I saw my hand (talk about what comes around goes around)

Anyway, I think we have established that the play was definitely not bad which really was all I wanted to get views on, though some agree with me that in his position it was foldable and the slags and lags disagree

Thanks

[AndrewT]

[X] Deputydawg redeems himself by using the phrase 'slags and lags'

[TightEnd]

[ x ] thrilled to be associated with slags and lags.

[ x ] even some nits and tits agree QQ can't be folded there

[ShatnerPants]

[ x ] thrilled to be associated with slags and lags.

[ x ] even some nits and tits agree QQ can't be folded there

I align myself with the brats and prats, and we think it's fine too.

[LeKnave]

whilst your reasoning may be correct that has to be arsehole comment of the day when the 9 people on that table have got past 814 other runners - I'm sure a strong player like you must do that live all the time

ooops, just seen this.  in my eye.

sorry if it came across as offensive, but generally the bigger field a tournament is, the weaker the standard of player there will be deeper.  Simply from the bad to good player ratio being so high.  It was not to say you are a weak player personally.

[deputydawg]

whilst your reasoning may be correct that has to be arsehole comment of the day when the 9 people on that table have got past 814 other runners - I'm sure a strong player like you must do that live all the time

ooops, just seen this.  in my eye.

sorry if it came across as offensive, but generally the bigger field a tournament is, the weaker the standard of player there will be deeper.  Simply from the bad to good player ratio being so high.  It was not to say you are a weak player personally.

np