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MANTIS01
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Re: Elimination hand at Thanet GUKPT
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October 26, 2008, 12:58:08 PM »
Can someone pass James his dummy please.
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Re: Elimination hand at Thanet GUKPT
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October 26, 2008, 02:49:25 PM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on October 26, 2008, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: tikay on October 26, 2008, 12:02:53 AM
Let the boys have their fun, but when it comes to a deep knowledge of the game, & almost unparalled record of success, you've been there, seen it, & done it. That's all that needs to be said.
Do you think Simon has played more comps than i have? Do you think Simon has won more comps than i have?
Assuming Simon has played 1 tournament every day for his 14years of playing i would have more experience....
Not having a go here it's just incorrect to assume Simon has more experience than myself or Dave.
But online experience is different to live games. No?
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tikay
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Re: Elimination hand at Thanet GUKPT
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October 26, 2008, 03:33:48 PM »
Quote from: GlasgowBandit on October 26, 2008, 02:49:25 PM
Quote from: Royal Flush on October 26, 2008, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: tikay on October 26, 2008, 12:02:53 AM
Let the boys have their fun, but when it comes to a deep knowledge of the game, & almost unparalled record of success, you've been there, seen it, & done it. That's all that needs to be said.
Do you think Simon has played more comps than i have? Do you think Simon has won more comps than i have?
Assuming Simon has played 1 tournament every day for his 14years of playing i would have more experience....
Not having a go here it's just incorrect to assume Simon has more experience than myself or Dave.
But online experience is different to live games. No?
It most certainly is - very different.
Mr Flush would likely wipe the floor with Simon Trumper Online - I'm not even sure Simon plays Online.
B & M is a whole different game, & I'm happy to back Simon rather than almost any other player n that department at any buy-in Level. And I'd back Flushy Online if I could - though I think someone like Tom McCready would give me a better run, more times than not.
But that misses the point completely.
Both players can teach guys like us a great deal, & they can do that not by saying "that's right/wrong/drivel", but by explaining "why". That's the clever bit, & that's why we have a PHA Board.
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Re: Elimination hand at Thanet GUKPT
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October 26, 2008, 03:40:29 PM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on October 26, 2008, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: tikay on October 26, 2008, 12:02:53 AM
Let the boys have their fun, but when it comes to a deep knowledge of the game, & almost unparalled record of success, you've been there, seen it, & done it. That's all that needs to be said.
Do you think Simon has played more comps than i have? Do you think Simon has won more comps than i have?
Assuming Simon has played 1 tournament every day for his 14years of playing i would have more experience....
Not having a go here it's just incorrect to assume Simon has more experience than myself or Dave.
You are entirely corect in your assumptions here.
It's just my view, you are a far better Online player than he is (does he even play Online?), but he knows how many beans make five in B & M stuff.
And when it comes to explainng why he makes the plays he does, it's "no contest".
I, amongst most of the blondes, ache for you to help us with our online games, by explaning why we should, or should not, play certain hands in a certain way.
Mr MANTIS probably gets it wrong as often as he gets it right, but at least we can see his logic, & therefore consider it's merits properly.
And ring me back, instead of running away as soon as I get on the front foot with you. You rung off so quickly, you must have been on a promise.
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Re: Elimination hand at Thanet GUKPT
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October 27, 2008, 09:55:53 AM »
Quote from: tikay on October 26, 2008, 03:40:29 PM
And ring me back, instead of running away as soon as I get on the front foot with you. You rung off so quickly, you must have been on a promise.
Sorry was on a train (calm down) and we were filling very fast at Gatwick so had to quickly go, i will call you later if you so desire.
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Re: Elimination hand at Thanet GUKPT
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October 27, 2008, 02:26:39 PM »
I like Simon, he is a nice bloke and always good conversation so this is nothing against him at all personally but if Tikay would like to crossbook myself against him or Flushy against him in any live tournament that we all play then please let me know. The same goes for any online tournament on the PLANET if he would like to crossbook myself against Red Dog or Flushy against Red Dog then id be happy to oblige.
Im sure im getting punked here, where is Ashton?
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Re: Elimination hand at Thanet GUKPT
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October 27, 2008, 02:28:37 PM »
Jesus il even give a 10% premium just as an incentive to get this bet on!
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Re: Elimination hand at Thanet GUKPT
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October 27, 2008, 02:35:14 PM »
Quote from: tikay on October 26, 2008, 03:33:48 PM
B & M is a whole different game, & I'm happy to back Simon rather than almost any other player n that department at any buy-in Level. And I'd back Flushy Online if I could - though I think someone like
Tom
McCready
would give me a better run, more times than not.
Lol, just LOL.
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Re: Elimination hand at Thanet GUKPT
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October 27, 2008, 04:00:36 PM »
Quote from: Dubai on October 27, 2008, 02:26:39 PM
Im sure im getting punked here, where is Ashton?
Been thinking the same thing!
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Re: Elimination hand at Thanet GUKPT
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October 27, 2008, 07:52:07 PM »
This has just made my day. Thank you all involved.
post deleted, cause i think its a wind-up also.
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Re: Elimination hand at Thanet GUKPT
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October 27, 2008, 08:16:20 PM »
Interesting thread.
1. Some standard dross on here about not wanting to take coin flips. Unless you are playing with no antes/massively long clock/against loads of donks then you have to take marginal spots like 95% racing/5% dominating etc. By passing in these spots you then need to consistently get in 70/30 spots. They just don't come often enough in normal comps.
2. The `bore brothers', Flushy and Dubai reel out the standard internet nonsense about never limping. This is just pure garbage. There are numerous highly profitable situations in which to limp, especially in live play and especially when players don't have a read on your game. Simon's spot utg with ak when there are 8-15bb stacks behind him is just one perfect example. These 2 `internet geeks' follow like sheep all the pocket5/cardrunners cult carp.
If either of them ever made it past the first 2 levels of a live mtt they would realise there are plenty of
clowns who you could flash `the aces' at, but they still wouldn't believe you have them and shove in over your limp with all sorts,
3. I have played with Simon a few times and think he reads situation superbly. However, the stop and go with tt
is just horrendous. You could write a list longer then this thread why the way he played the hand is almost as bad as possible.
4. All in all I think I am edging towards tikay's selections on the crossbooking/last longer selections.
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Rookie (Rodney)
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Re: Elimination hand at Thanet GUKPT
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October 27, 2008, 08:31:57 PM »
[X] Level worked for me.
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Re: Elimination hand at Thanet GUKPT
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Re: Elimination hand at Thanet GUKPT
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October 27, 2008, 09:54:49 PM »
Not gonna embarrass people and say who it is, but "someones" OPR stats.
Pokerstars-
Game Prizes Profit ROI ABI AFS R/A ITM ITM
Hold'em NL $54,604 <$0 -41% $270 2210 20% 47/344 14%
Hold'em L/PL $1,287 <$0 -75% $71 235 1% 9/72 12%
Omaha $0 <$0 -100% $22 95 0% 0/1 0%
Omaha Hi Lo $0 <$0 -100% $100 329 20% 0/5 0%
Other $0 <$0 -100% $215 1548 0% 0/2 0%
$55,891 <$0 -43% $233 1844 17% 56/424 13%
Incase you cant read that, thats a -43% ROI
And Full tilt
Game Prizes Profit ROI ABI AFS R/A ITM ITM
Hold'em NL $10,299 <$0 -40% $300 2047 0% 6/57 11%
Hold'em L/PL $0 $0 0% $0 0 0% 0/0 0%
Omaha $0 $0 0% $0 0 0% 0/0 0%
Omaha Hi Lo $0 $0 0% $0 0 0% 0/0 0%
Other $0 <$0 -100% $216 932 0% 0/1 0%
$10,299 <$0 -41% $299 2028 0% 6/58 10%
Thats a er -41%.
To limp or not to limp? Good question
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Re: Elimination hand at Thanet GUKPT
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October 27, 2008, 10:04:35 PM »
Hey! I was on your side Camel!
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