$50 STT - Do you value bet KK on the turn?

[thetank]

After just under 40 hands...

CO is 21/5  (VP$IP%/PFR%)
SB is 41/15



Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $80(BB) Full Tilt

SB ($1,895)
BB ($1,180)
UTG ($3,990)
UTG+1 ($3,440)
CO ($1,850)
Hero ($1,145)

Blinds are $40/$80

Dealt to Hero 

fold, fold, call, Hero raises to $300, call, fold, call,

FLOP ($980) 

check, check, check,

TURN ($980) 

check, check




Do you value bet?

[Moskvich]

Personally no - I think you're more likely to get value on the river than on the turn, because it looks bluffier and because they might help you out by betting the river themselves. Also, if you bet here and one of them does have the A, you can't really avoid getting it all in. If you check and one of them has the A, they're quite likely to bet small on the river and at least leave you with a few hundred if you just flat it. If you check and it's checked to you on the river then you can be pretty confident the A isn't out and maybe value shove?

I might be putting too much value on being left with a few hundred chips though, suspect I do that in SNGs. Maybe you should just shove river anyway if bet into? Dunno. You're better at these than I am anyway, why are you asking me..?

[EvilPie]

Can't really see the point in value betting here.

Who's going to pay you off?

I prefer to check it down and call a bet on the river if one is made.

[thetank]

I checked turn.

Offsuit deuce on river, again it is checked to me.

Do I value bet now?

[Longy]

I would value bet the river nice and small less than 1/2 pot, trying to get a crying call from some random pair etc.

I don't like betting the turn 3 ways, i would if the pot was heads up on the turn or stacks were deeper.

[thetank]

I checked the river like a big brainless nit

One showed Qx, the other Jx

fml, do I think they're gonna check the ace 3 times, wtf?

sigh.... I play bad. Still managed to get out for the day and somehow make a whole $15!

[bolt pp]

I would value bet the river nice and small less than 1/2 pot, trying to get a crying call from some random pair etc.

this you fcking lunatic nit!!!!!!

[TheChipPrince]

somehow make a whole $15!

MBNFS

[AlexMartin]

be the turn for protection and value.

[MC]

You're in position here?

I don't mind checking the turn...but you have to bet the river if it checks to you!!!

[Thekellster89]

I checked turn.

Offsuit deuce on river, again it is checked to me.

Do I value bet now?

obv anywhere between 25-50% pot imo.