bbc sports personality & x factor

[AndrewT]

Lewis Hamilton here looks like some kid who has won a competition to have his photo taken with some sporting celebrities.

[GreekStein]

I hate F1 as much as anyone, but Hamilton's achievement this year is far greater than Hoy's IMHO.

lolol i had a shedload of dosh on hamilton cos I thought he'd win on popularity but don't know how you can justify his achievement being greater than Hoy's.

[boldie]

Vicky Pendleton would have got my vote if she was on the list.



I thought the right people won in all/most of the categories.  Glad to see Hoy (he's British) win.  Tremendous performance at the Olympics and Worlds, and I'm sure the millions Hamilton gets will cushion the blow of him not winning SPOTY.

Best team was obviously between manu and the cycling team.  Glad the cycling team got it ldo.

Little Emily deserved the young personality of the year, although Adlington could have won this as well.

Was also glad Bolt won the overseas one ahead of Phelps, although both were deserving.

Good choice for the coach of the year as well.  No sure what Harry was doing in that short-list though!

 

Ubertilt at that one...Really, how was the cycling "team" a team? It mainly consisted of individual events! And how can you seperate the cycling team from the rest of team GB? It's almost as stupid as not knowing how many states the US of A has!

[DaveShoelace]

I hate F1 as much as anyone, but Hamilton's achievement this year is far greater than Hoy's IMHO.

lolol i had a shedload of dosh on hamilton cos I thought he'd win on popularity but don't know how you can justify his achievement being greater than Hoy's.

All Hamilton did was win his sports main honour for the year (And was a few milli seconds away from not doing that too), which is obviously remarkable in its own right and excellent for British Forumula 1 because its been a while, but Hoy dominated his sport and won more medals than 99.99% of Olympians can ever expect to win at an Olympics. Hoy also has helped promote cycling in Britain and who knows, maybe we will have less fat kids as a direct result.

Plus, to tilt the F1 fans out there, Cycling is a proper sport.

Plus Hamilton is nobbing that bird from the PussyCat Dolls, hes already won enough this year.

[Geo the Sarge]

Vicky Pendleton would have got my vote if she was on the list.



I thought the right people won in all/most of the categories.  Glad to see Hoy (he's British) win.  Tremendous performance at the Olympics and Worlds, and I'm sure the millions Hamilton gets will cushion the blow of him not winning SPOTY.

Best team was obviously between manu and the cycling team.  Glad the cycling team got it ldo.

Little Emily deserved the young personality of the year, although Adlington could have won this as well.

Was also glad Bolt won the overseas one ahead of Phelps, although both were deserving.

Good choice for the coach of the year as well.  No sure what Harry was doing in that short-list though!

 

Ubertilt at that one...Really, how was the cycling "team" a team? It mainly consisted of individual events! And how can you seperate the cycling team from the rest of team GB? It's almost as stupid as not knowing how many states the US of A has!

Boldie,

I agree with Kin here. The awards are for a years worth of reults, not just the Olympics. The cycling team have wiped the floor with all other nations for over a year now.

They work as a team in many events, with some cyclists forsaking their own individual positions to ensure a Brit wins, for example, setting the right pace for their strongest racer in certain events.

If the basketball, volleyball, hockey team had won their olympic event would they not have been entitled to be considered for the team event in their own right as the Hockey team were a few years back?

Geo

[Scottish Dave]

I hate F1 as much as anyone, but Hamilton's achievement this year is far greater than Hoy's IMHO.

lolol i had a shedload of dosh on hamilton cos I thought he'd win on popularity but don't know how you can justify his achievement being greater than Hoy's.

maybe we will have less fat kids as a direct result.

Nice view's

[NoflopsHomer]

Vicky Pendleton would have got my vote if she was on the list.



I thought the right people won in all/most of the categories.  Glad to see Hoy (he's British) win.  Tremendous performance at the Olympics and Worlds, and I'm sure the millions Hamilton gets will cushion the blow of him not winning SPOTY.

Best team was obviously between manu and the cycling team.  Glad the cycling team got it ldo.

Little Emily deserved the young personality of the year, although Adlington could have won this as well.

Was also glad Bolt won the overseas one ahead of Phelps, although both were deserving.

Good choice for the coach of the year as well.  No sure what Harry was doing in that short-list though!

 

Ubertilt at that one...Really, how was the cycling "team" a team? It mainly consisted of individual events! And how can you seperate the cycling team from the rest of team GB? It's almost as stupid as not knowing how many states the US of A has!

Boldie,

I agree with Kin here. The awards are for a years worth of reults, not just the Olympics. The cycling team have wiped the floor with all other nations for over a year now.

They work as a team in many events, with some cyclists forsaking their own individual positions to ensure a Brit wins, for example, setting the right pace for their strongest racer in certain events.

If the basketball, volleyball, hockey team had won their olympic event would they not have been entitled to be considered for the team event in their own right as the Hockey team were a few years back?

Geo

Scots proud to be British this year?  

[Geo the Sarge]

Vicky Pendleton would have got my vote if she was on the list.



I thought the right people won in all/most of the categories.  Glad to see Hoy (he's British) win.  Tremendous performance at the Olympics and Worlds, and I'm sure the millions Hamilton gets will cushion the blow of him not winning SPOTY.

Best team was obviously between manu and the cycling team.  Glad the cycling team got it ldo.

Little Emily deserved the young personality of the year, although Adlington could have won this as well.

Was also glad Bolt won the overseas one ahead of Phelps, although both were deserving.

Good choice for the coach of the year as well.  No sure what Harry was doing in that short-list though!

 

Ubertilt at that one...Really, how was the cycling "team" a team? It mainly consisted of individual events! And how can you seperate the cycling team from the rest of team GB? It's almost as stupid as not knowing how many states the US of A has!

Boldie,

I agree with Kin here. The awards are for a years worth of reults, not just the Olympics. The cycling team have wiped the floor with all other nations for over a year now.

They work as a team in many events, with some cyclists forsaking their own individual positions to ensure a Brit wins, for example, setting the right pace for their strongest racer in certain events.

If the basketball, volleyball, hockey team had won their olympic event would they not have been entitled to be considered for the team event in their own right as the Hockey team were a few years back?

Geo

Scots proud to be British this year?  

Where there no English, N Irish or Welsh in the cycling team???

Dig all you like Chris, I have often posted here that I consider myself British as well as Scottish.


Geo

[boldie]

Vicky Pendleton would have got my vote if she was on the list.



I thought the right people won in all/most of the categories.  Glad to see Hoy (he's British) win.  Tremendous performance at the Olympics and Worlds, and I'm sure the millions Hamilton gets will cushion the blow of him not winning SPOTY.

Best team was obviously between manu and the cycling team.  Glad the cycling team got it ldo.

Little Emily deserved the young personality of the year, although Adlington could have won this as well.

Was also glad Bolt won the overseas one ahead of Phelps, although both were deserving.

Good choice for the coach of the year as well.  No sure what Harry was doing in that short-list though!

 

Ubertilt at that one...Really, how was the cycling "team" a team? It mainly consisted of individual events! And how can you seperate the cycling team from the rest of team GB? It's almost as stupid as not knowing how many states the US of A has!

Boldie,

I agree with Kin here. The awards are for a years worth of reults, not just the Olympics. The cycling team have wiped the floor with all other nations for over a year now.

They work as a team in many events, with some cyclists forsaking their own individual positions to ensure a Brit wins, for example, setting the right pace for their strongest racer in certain events.

If the basketball, volleyball, hockey team had won their olympic event would they not have been entitled to be considered for the team event in their own right as the Hockey team were a few years back?

Geo

agreed..but it's not a team, whereas a basketball team is a team...You also can not say "Team GB nominated in the same category as "Olympic cycling Team GB"...one is part of the other. Team GB should not have been nominated at all as the "olympic team" is not a team. The cycling "team" is made up up people doing their individual events for no other good than their own. There is no scoring system that says "Rebecca Romero's points will be added to Chris Hoy's points and therefore Great Brittain wins the cycling".
Basketball, Volleyball and hockey are played by teams..cycling, in this case, most certainly is not and therefore they should not have been nominated in that cotegory/

[Nem]

I hate F1 as much as anyone, but Hamilton's achievement this year is far greater than Hoy's IMHO.

lolol i had a shedload of dosh on hamilton cos I thought he'd win on popularity but don't know how you can justify his achievement being greater than Hoy's.

lollol maybe cos F1 is the pinnacle of motor sport and so few make it. Cycling, LOL

[kinboshi]

Vicky Pendleton would have got my vote if she was on the list.



I thought the right people won in all/most of the categories.  Glad to see Hoy (he's British) win.  Tremendous performance at the Olympics and Worlds, and I'm sure the millions Hamilton gets will cushion the blow of him not winning SPOTY.

Best team was obviously between manu and the cycling team.  Glad the cycling team got it ldo.

Little Emily deserved the young personality of the year, although Adlington could have won this as well.

Was also glad Bolt won the overseas one ahead of Phelps, although both were deserving.

Good choice for the coach of the year as well.  No sure what Harry was doing in that short-list though!

 

Ubertilt at that one...Really, how was the cycling "team" a team? It mainly consisted of individual events! And how can you seperate the cycling team from the rest of team GB? It's almost as stupid as not knowing how many states the US of A has!

Boldie,

I agree with Kin here. The awards are for a years worth of reults, not just the Olympics. The cycling team have wiped the floor with all other nations for over a year now.

They work as a team in many events, with some cyclists forsaking their own individual positions to ensure a Brit wins, for example, setting the right pace for their strongest racer in certain events.

If the basketball, volleyball, hockey team had won their olympic event would they not have been entitled to be considered for the team event in their own right as the Hockey team were a few years back?

Geo

agreed..but it's not a team, whereas a basketball team is a team...You also can not say "Team GB nominated in the same category as "Olympic cycling Team GB"...one is part of the other. Team GB should not have been nominated at all as the "olympic team" is not a team. The cycling "team" is made up up people doing their individual events for no other good than their own. There is no scoring system that says "Rebecca Romero's points will be added to Chris Hoy's points and therefore Great Brittain wins the cycling".
Basketball, Volleyball and hockey are played by teams..cycling, in this case, most certainly is not and therefore they should not have been nominated in that cotegory/

You've missed a crucial part of Geo's post.  Many of the cycling team had to step aside, and miss out on their best event for the greater good of the team.  In many of the events, only two Brits were allowed to compete.  If it was a completely individual event, then there would have been more Brits reaching the semis, and more medals.



Looks like Team GB are at the top of this table.  Although this doesn't take into account the road cyclists, so should they be included in the 'team' as well or not?

[fatshaft]

I hate F1 as much as anyone, but Hamilton's achievement this year is far greater than Hoy's IMHO.

lolol i had a shedload of dosh on hamilton cos I thought he'd win on popularity but don't know how you can justify his achievement being greater than Hoy's.

lollol maybe cos F1 is the pinnacle of motor sport and so few make it. Cycling, LOL

Not like you to post something so ignorant nem.

[booder]

I hate F1 as much as anyone, but Hamilton's achievement this year is far greater than Hoy's IMHO.

lolol i had a shedload of dosh on hamilton cos I thought he'd win on popularity but don't know how you can justify his achievement being greater than Hoy's.

lollol maybe cos F1 is the pinnacle of motor sport and so few make it. Cycling, LOL

[  ]  Not like you to post something so ignorant nem.

FYP

[bolt pp]

I hate F1 as much as anyone, but Hamilton's achievement this year is far greater than Hoy's IMHO.

lolol i had a shedload of dosh on hamilton cos I thought he'd win on popularity but don't know how you can justify his achievement being greater than Hoy's.

lollol maybe cos F1 is the pinnacle of motor sport and so few make it. Cycling, LOL

Not like you to post something so ignorant nem.

he's right, cycling is a joke of a sport

[Indestructable]

I had money ages ago on Hamilton and Murray. I also did a recent bet on Adlington just in case as the press were full of coverage for her to win it. I saw little mention of Hoy in the run up to win this, how did he do it? I don't begrudge him as deserves the win, but didn't see it coming.