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« Reply #120 on: December 15, 2008, 11:42:44 PM »

us postal did win the team event in tour de france which is based on top 3 finishers
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« Reply #121 on: December 15, 2008, 11:51:20 PM »

same as f1. both an individual and a team sport at the same time
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« Reply #122 on: December 15, 2008, 11:51:37 PM »

us postal did win the team event in tour de france which is based on top 3 finishers
Based on the top 3 INDIVIDUAL finishers?
So if the British individual cyclists won most medals then the team could still be the best team even though they don't compete as one all the time?

Just throwing it out there, if you like it you can keep it, if you don't you can go ahead and throw it right back
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« Reply #123 on: December 16, 2008, 12:42:51 AM »

an interesting aspect of the hoy win is that if you'd approached people in the street who hadn't seen the list of 10 finalists and asked them who they thought should win I'd imagine that very few would come up with his name.

But I think if you asked 10 people who had at least a passing interest in sport most would have nominated Hoy as his was, IMO, the finest sporting achievement of the year. Which is, as the organisers said, the only criteria to be judged on.

He also happens to be a decent fella which is no bad thing.

What about the odds for next year?? I reckon it's a straight fight between Lewis Hamilton & Andy Murray.
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« Reply #124 on: December 16, 2008, 01:03:00 AM »

All the argument of "well hamiltons superior technology won him the championship" has to apply to Hoyes and the doris, britain bought the olympics in the cycling, same as Mclaren bought the F1 title, based on that, it was always gonnna come down to who related most to the general public, and a white working class scot was always going to win over an ugly woman and a coloured person.

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« Reply #125 on: December 16, 2008, 01:20:21 AM »




What about the odds for next year?? I reckon it's a straight fight between Lewis Hamilton & Andy Murray.

Murray would be my fave, if he wins a grand slam it is going to take something to beat him. The pure fact that this would be something no mens tennis players has achieved in generations would be a major selling point.

No olympics, major footie tourneys or ryder cup rules out some tradational contenders. It is the Ashes in this country next year, so an England cricketer may well be in contention.
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« Reply #126 on: December 16, 2008, 01:24:24 AM »

murray is a cast iron lock, Im already trying to build my portfolio to get him in as much as possible.
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« Reply #127 on: December 16, 2008, 02:23:05 AM »




What about the odds for next year?? I reckon it's a straight fight between Lewis Hamilton & Andy Murray.

Murray would be my fave, if he wins a grand slam it is going to take something to beat him. The pure fact that this would be something no mens tennis players has achieved in generations would be a major selling point.

No olympics, major footie tourneys or ryder cup rules out some tradational contenders. It is the Ashes in this country next year, so Andrew Flintoff may well be in contention.

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« Reply #128 on: December 16, 2008, 07:17:39 AM »

Looking at next year Murray has a great chance if he can win a grand slam and Hamilton if he wins the title again.
I'm going to tip David Haye though.
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« Reply #129 on: December 16, 2008, 09:11:47 AM »

Looking at next year Murray has a great chance if he can win a grand slam and Hamilton if he wins the title again.
I'm going to tip David Haye though.

David Haye will struggle to win it.  He fights on Setanta.
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« Reply #130 on: December 16, 2008, 09:25:26 AM »

Looking at next year Murray has a great chance if he can win a grand slam and Hamilton if he wins the title again.
I'm going to tip David Haye though.

David Haye will struggle to win it.  He fights on Setanta.

Isnt that a banned substance?
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« Reply #131 on: December 16, 2008, 09:43:04 AM »

What about the odds for next year?? I reckon it's a straight fight between Lewis Hamilton & Andy Murray.

Hamilton  5/2
Murray  7/2
Haye  8/1
Flintoff, Pietersen  10/1
Hatton  12/1
Radcliffe  16/1
Khan, Idowu, Poulter, Westwood, Panesar, Hoy  20/1
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« Reply #132 on: December 16, 2008, 10:23:01 PM »

us postal did win the team event in tour de france which is based on top 3 finishers
Based on the top 3 INDIVIDUAL finishers?
So if the British individual cyclists won most medals then the team could still be the best team even though they don't compete as one all the time?

Just throwing it out there, if you like it you can keep it, if you don't you can go ahead and throw it right back
Not sure if you're fishing, but anyway, road racing is very much a team sport, tactics are planned for the whole stage, which is why it is seen as a team event, where the team work to get an individual to win the overall event.

I do struggle however to see how the olympic cycling team could be a team? Clearly they entered a number of individual events, or pairs or four man events. So any of those could have been a team, but not the whole cycling squad which never at any point raced as a team.

Just my Two Clubs.
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« Reply #133 on: December 17, 2008, 11:40:02 AM »

What about the odds for next year?? I reckon it's a straight fight between Lewis Hamilton & Andy Murray.

Hamilton  5/2
Murray  7/2
Haye  8/1
Flintoff, Pietersen  10/1
Hatton  12/1
Radcliffe  16/1
Khan, Idowu, Poulter, Westwood, Panesar, Hoy  20/1



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« Reply #134 on: December 17, 2008, 11:43:20 AM »

If Monty discovers how to turn the ball again he might be with a shout simply because he's so likeable...
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