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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2009, 04:45:49 AM »

He looked like a loafer kind of guy, but considering I couldn't see his feet I could only speculate about colour. Let's say brown. Brown fecking loafers. With those tassle things. ok.

pfft, I know poker's a game of incomplete info but seriously?

I drop a chip near his chair for info.

lol...This.

I re-raise pre in this spot btw.

Also, against a 60 YO loafer wearing old guy, you're almost certainly behind here. Fold the turn and curse myself for not re-raising pre flop.
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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2009, 04:18:24 PM »

fold the flop
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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2009, 04:19:43 PM »

fold the flop

not this

in fact anything but this.
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2009, 04:29:15 PM »

He looked like a loafer kind of guy, but considering I couldn't see his feet I could only speculate about colour. Let's say brown. Brown fecking loafers. With those tassle things. ok.

pfft, I know poker's a game of incomplete info but seriously?

I drop a chip near his chair for info.

bolt. The guy was in mp and I was bb. How do I drop a chip near his chair? Please think about what you say.
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2009, 04:37:02 PM »

fold the flop

not this

in fact anything but this.

by calling all you do is build a pot with a very marginal hand out of position giving yourself difficult decisions on the turn and river.
cut your losses at 2400 ,
and think why did i not 3 bet / shove pre
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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2009, 05:39:24 PM »

fold the flop

not this

in fact anything but this.

by calling all you do is build a pot with a very marginal hand out of position giving yourself difficult decisions on the turn and river.
cut your losses at 2400 ,
and think why did i not 3 bet / shove pre

At the time my inclination was the guy was weak when he raised. I can't back that up with hard facts cos I'd just arrived at the table. But my sense was this guy was raising light. I felt if I played back at him pre he would surely fold. This led to me to favour the call to attempt to get some value from the hand and change my situation. But can't argue with the point this strategy presents difficult situations.
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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2009, 05:44:21 PM »

With your stack size I would prob fold flop or jam pre.

I think on the turn this is a fold
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2009, 05:45:56 PM »

He looked like a loafer kind of guy, but considering I couldn't see his feet I could only speculate about colour. Let's say brown. Brown fecking loafers. With those tassle things. ok.

pfft, I know poker's a game of incomplete info but seriously?

I drop a chip near his chair for info.


bolt. The guy was in mp and I was bb. How do I drop a chip near his chair? Please think about what you say.

So you just come up with unsubstantiated tassle related conjecture!!!

I hope you can back it up with something further cos Noble is gonna get round to this thread eventually and you can be sure he'll require a lot more explination than: "he looked like a loafer kind of guy"!!





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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2009, 05:48:22 PM »

fold the flop

not this

in fact anything but this.

by calling all you do is build a pot with a very marginal hand out of position giving yourself difficult decisions on the turn and river.
cut your losses at 2400 ,
and think why did i not 3 bet / shove pre

I probs just jam pre too but once we've taken this line i cant give the flop up to c-bet here
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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2009, 06:59:17 PM »

He looked like a loafer kind of guy, but considering I couldn't see his feet I could only speculate about colour. Let's say brown. Brown fecking loafers. With those tassle things. ok.

pfft, I know poker's a game of incomplete info but seriously?

I drop a chip near his chair for info.


bolt. The guy was in mp and I was bb. How do I drop a chip near his chair? Please think about what you say.

So you just come up with unsubstantiated tassle related conjecture!!!

I hope you can back it up with something further cos Noble is gonna get round to this thread eventually and you can be sure he'll require a lot more explination than: "he looked like a loafer kind of guy"!!

You're placing undue attention on shoe colour anyway. Shoe-sock colour combos are going to be far more useful for gleaning information from an unknown. If said villain had black slip-ons accompanied by white socks we could ascertain he is a single man. He would therefore be a relatively cautious player because he would be reluctant to return to an empty flat early doors.
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« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2009, 07:01:15 PM »

fold the flop

not this

in fact anything but this.

by calling all you do is build a pot with a very marginal hand out of position giving yourself difficult decisions on the turn and river.
cut your losses at 2400 ,
and think why did i not 3 bet / shove pre

I probs just jam pre too but once we've taken this line i cant give the flop up to c-bet here

The plan was to check-jam any non A/K flop. The A presents the problem...as does his big change of direction with bet sizing.
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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2009, 07:03:05 PM »

what do I know, but I reckon when you flat call the flop he puts you on the flush draw and overbet on the turn wants to shut you out of the odds to hit it on river

I fold the turn (surprise surprise) even though its tempting to regard the big overbet as weak
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« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2009, 08:50:39 PM »

I shove pre, mainly because oop w 1010 too many overcards gonna drop and give us headaches. hate our position too at this stage of comp, im really hoping he calls with AK/AQ and we can get to work again.
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« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2009, 09:14:38 PM »

I shove pre, mainly because oop w 1010 too many overcards gonna drop and give us headaches. hate our position too at this stage of comp, im really hoping he calls with 99 and we can get to work again.

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« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2009, 09:15:51 PM »

I shove pre, mainly because oop w 1010 too many overcards gonna drop and give us headaches. hate our position too at this stage of comp, im really hoping he calls with 99 and we can go home

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