get them in here, or wait for a better spot?

[Claw75]

£200 D-C Freezeout at Walsall last night.  17 left, 15 paid.  Blinds are 2000/4000/300, we are 8 handed with 50k - average 70k and find  in the small blind.  Raised to 15k by aggresive player in mid position then passed round to me.  Raiser has about 90k and has been raising 2-3 times an orbit, mostly without contest.  When looked up he's shown  , ,  ,  .  So, as the title suggests, do you get them in here or wait for position and a better spot?

[Jim-D]

I wait coz i'm a pure nit

[booder]

I wait coz i'm a pure nit

+1

[Graham C]

I think I sigh and pass here too.   

[AndrewT]

The problem you have is that, if you push, he's getting 2-1 on the call, so if he knows what he's doing (which it looks like he might do) he'll call, so if his range is Ax, pairs and some random live cards then you're basically flipping for your tournament.

With 12BB in a tourney where average stack is only 18BB, I'd be happy to flip.

For you, it depends on how important not bubbling is.

[GreekStein]

Hmm really interesting spot with the situation/reads and stack sizes etc.  

If you think he calls 35k more with a hand like Q9sooted to your shove then it becomes an even harder decision imo.

I don't know your image but if he's not likely to call u light then I prob shove. I don't like his open to 15k though - gay bet imo.

I don't think folding is that bad either with 50k and the button next hand. This is really read dependent.

[kinboshi]

Hmm really interesting spot with the situation/reads and stack sizes etc.  

If you think he calls 35k more with a hand like Q9sooted to your shove then it becomes an even harder decision imo.

I don't know your image but if he's not likely to call u light then I prob shove. I don't like his open to 15k though - gay bet imo.

I don't think folding is that bad either with 50k and the button next hand. This is really read dependent.

Nutter.

[Royal Flush]

So, as the title suggests, do you get them in here or wait for position and a better spot?

There is no better spot than this.

[hatthehole]

pretty standard to get it in here imo - u make money in mtts from the wins, not the min cashes

[T_Mar]

Sounds like he's taking advantage of the bubble to me ...snap shove for me

[kukushkin88]

I think the size of his raise here potentially looks quite strong, especially if it is larger than his normal raise. There seems to be a bit of a trend with players who know they are meant to be aggro in this type of scenario to slightly overbet their genuine hands and just have a standard 2.5-3bb bet when stealing. You are however well ahead of his range based on the info we have making it a pretty straightforward shove. Whilst you obv prefer a call from the lower end of his range(he should call any two), if he thinks you're nitty you might have some FE.   

[paulhouk03]

i would wait here u still have 2 more orbits to wait for a better spot
ace ten isnt the greatest hand and its easily dominated

[AndrewT]

i would wait here u still have 2 more orbits to wait for a better spot
ace ten isnt the greatest hand and its easily dominated

For restealing, this is the last orbit - one more set of blinds and a repush isn't getting through.

[snoopy1239]

Given what he's shown, and assuming that his preflop raising sizes have been of a similar amount, this is a push. You're likely to be ahead, so with the current blinds and stacks, there is no reason to not move all in unless you're desperate to scrape into the money.

[boldie]

push here...and very rapidly.

unless you're going to lose the hand obv.