A 10s...

[david3103]

Two tournaments
Two exits on A10s


First, my standard £10 Rileys. 21 runners, 5,000 chips each. - I'm SB - blinds are 400/800 and have just over 6,000 chips. 11 players left, 6 on my table

Folds round to me BB has about 14,000. He came to the table as an unknown in the second level with about 3.5xAvge stack and proceeded to donk them off calling with gutshot draws and weak flushes. He was down to 3,000ish when the blinds went up and shoved blind from UTG - he got a lot of action and found a 9 to match two others on the board.

I have A10s - shove?



Second £10 FO, 1st prize is a seat at the Irish Open Qualifier. 15 runners, 2,000 chips.
Again about 11 players and I am back to my starting stack havng played virtually no poker. I did have AJs once, but otherwise my hands have been in the 72/73/85 area
Blinds 150/300

I pick up A10s UTG and call for 300 chips.
Fold/fold
Button raises to 675 (he's done a lot of this - at 75/150 he raised to 475 and then folded to the SBs shove for 750 and showed 67s. (Bad fold imo, he was being asked to put in an extra 275 for a pot of c 2,000)
However

It's folded to me

action?

[Cf]

Open shove both. Your M is too small for you to consider any other action here.

[LeKnave]

shove the first.

dont limp the 2nd for 300 of a 2k stack.  just open shove tht too.

[action man]

always makes me laugh when someone says Rileys

[LeKnave]

always makes me laugh when someone says Rileys

june, u were poised to become TD @ a rileys once.

ul you didnt get the part m8.

[action man]

needed a bar licence WTF. Thats why it makes me laugh ldo. For hand 1 pass and play a few frames, and have a cheap burger and chips.

[thetank]

Hand 1 is an unexploitable shove.

If you were to push and then turn your cards face up so BB knows exactly what you have, the shove would still make you money.


Hand 2, not sure I like the limp? Why not open shove?

If it's coz of the payout structure and you want to gamble on a double up, so are limping to get action then fair enough.
Because you're questioning what to do when said action arrives tho... I'm guessing that wasn't the plan. As played, shove.


Both these hands are super obvious, that you question them makes me think you're probably missing a lot of spots and not even noticing.

[david3103]

Hand 1 is an unexploitable shove.

If you were to push and then turn your cards face up so BB knows exactly what you have, the shove would still make you money.


Hand 2, not sure I like the limp? Why not open shove?

If it's coz of the payout structure and you want to gamble on a double up, so are limping to get action then fair enough.
Because you're questioning what to do when said action arrives tho... I'm guessing that wasn't the plan. As played, shove.


Both these hands are super obvious, that you question them makes me think you're probably missing a lot of spots and not even noticing.

I guess I'm questioning them to be told this.

I shoved the first and got called by 22 - didn't hit - results orientated query

The second, I was expecting the raise and had decided to rrai if it came. He insta-called and his KK was good enough. Again, results orientated query.

I need to review two things I think

1 - my choice of tournaments

2 - when to make raises and what with. I'm not accumulating chips during the early levels in the way that I know I should. My tournament play has suffered as my online (micro) cash game has improved.

[gatso]

you're overanalyising. I've simplified your op by removing all the irrelevant bits

Two tournaments
Two exits on A10s


First, I'm SB - blinds are 400/800 and have just over 6,000 chips
Folds round to me
I have A10s - shove?



Second 11 players and I am back to my starting stack (2k)
Blinds 150/300

I pick up A10s UTG

open shove both

[david3103]

you're overanalyising. I've simplified your op by removing all the irrelevant bits

Two tournaments
Two exits on A10s


First, I'm SB - blinds are 400/800 and have just over 6,000 chips
Folds round to me
I have A10s - shove?



Second 11 players and I am back to my starting stack (2k)
Blinds 150/300

I pick up A10s UTG

open shove both

Thanks

I ran into a call from BB with 22 in the first one - and didn't hit

and KK on the second - again, didn't hit

sigh...

[gatso]

just to elaborate on my earlier reply which I did quickly before going out; there are times when you have ATs when you want to be thinking about history with oppos, reads etc. however when you have an unopened pot with <10BB and are in LP or EP short handed any history or reads are irrelevant, just jam

[thetank]

I've simplified your simplification

First, I'm SB - blinds are 400/800 and have just over 6,000 chips
Folds round to me
I have an ace - shove?

Yes

[gatso]

I've simplified your simplification

First, I'm SB - blinds are 400/800 and have just over 6,000 chips
Folds round to me
I have an ace - shove?

Yes

but you've made it look like I'm asking the question, I feel like you've simplified me

[david3103]

I've simplified your simplification

First, I'm SB - blinds are 400/800 and have just over 6,000 chips
Folds round to me
I have an ace - shove?

Yes

but you've made it look like I'm asking the question, I feel like you've simplified me

you started it!

[ ] I am unappreciative of sound advice

• I learn slow
• I am determined to learn

[gatso]

[ ] I am unappreciative of sound advice

• I learn slow
• I am determined to learn

sigh, let's start at the beginning then

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