BlueSq.com GUKPT Brighton: Day 2

[jambo22]

I'm not saying what Jones did was right or wrong but surely poker etiquette dictates that if you're not in the hand you shouldn't be talking?

De Mel should know better making such statements- Frazier should have called for the ruling if he believed it to be a call

Agree 1,000,000 % great post.

Jones should concentrate on HIS hands and De Mel should keep quiet, but the onus was on Frazer to ask for a ruling, not one of his buddies. I also think it was a very poor decision by the TD, but he has the final say.

[gasman]

blinds 1.5k/3k (200) everyone folds to Priyan in SB he calls with   and Ian checks in BB

 

Priyan 4k, Ian calls

 

Priyan check, Ian 4k, Priyan call

 

Priyan checks, Ian is thinking what to bet and Priyan says ''I'll have to call''

Now a ruling is called and TD says ''yes its binding, whatever he bets you have to call'' so Ian moves in 37k into like 24k pot and Priyan forced to call, sounds a bit harsh to me.

Is this the same hand? Does sound a bit harsh. Isn't this just table talk?

Yep same hand, Priyan not too bothered about Ian taking full advantage of the ruling, just annoyed someone else called for the ruling even though no betting had taken place on the river.

If he says, "I might have to call," he gives himself an out. "I have to call," is a definitive statement.

True.

I've often heard ''be careful, I'll call'' or ''i'll call you'' etc usually from someone trying to deter the other guy from betting but have then seen them pass. I guess it was just one of those situations and usually Ian would have bet like 10-15k and Priyan would have probably called, just unfortunate there was a big ruling called and he had to call a 37k shove.

[Chompy]

I've only played with Iwan a couple of times but he's struck me as being about as straight a guy you'd ever wish to meet. That's probably what this ultimately boils down to imo

[jambo22]

Iwan Jones is out, he pushed in with and got called by Richard Lewindon's .



All the chips Lewindon just lost to Greco, he's gained back, plus an extra 10k more.

As I said, play your own hands. End off

[doctor_fun]

Any up dates on Richard lewindon?
The guys a KILLA!!

[George2Loose]

I spose you have to be careful with these statements but I've heard plenty of table banter like this in the past and no one has ever involved a TD.

[NoflopsHomer]

Martyn Cavanagh raises to 11k from early position. Andreas Hoivold makes it 27k a couple of seats down, passed back to Martyn who gives Andreas a long stare. Andreas gives him a friendly wave back. Cavangh calls.



Check from the Welshman, Hoivold bets 23k. Cavangh quickly moves in. Hoivold calls just as fast, turning over , Cavanagh flips .





Hoivold has another 86k or so back, just covering his opponent and Martyn Cavanagh is knocked out.

[MadTurk]

blinds 1.5k/3k (200) everyone folds to Priyan in SB he calls with  and Ian checks in BB

 

Priyan 4k, Ian calls

 

Priyan check, Ian 4k, Priyan call

 

Priyan checks, Ian is thinking what to bet and Priyan says ''I'll have to call''

Now a ruling is called and TD says ''yes its binding, whatever he bets you have to call'' so Ian moves in 37k into like 24k pot and Priyan forced to call, sounds a bit harsh to me.

This is a fucking ridiculous ruling by the TD.

Unless the rule that any table talk goes has changed in 2009 Priyan has been robbed.

And for someone not involved in the pot to ask for the ruling makes it even worse (if that's possible).

agree with camel how can u be forced?u can alsp say i cant fold that hand  does it mean u have to all?balloxs every casino have shity rules that makes me sick

[bovie]

camel ,west ham rule

[The Camel]

camel ,west ham rule

Get it quietly Steve!

[NoflopsHomer]

I'm not saying what Jones did was right or wrong but surely poker etiquette dictates that if you're not in the hand you shouldn't be talking?

De Mel should know better making such statements- Frazier should have called for the ruling if he believed it to be a call

Agree 1,000,000 % great post.

Jones should concentrate on HIS hands and De Mel should keep quiet, but the onus was on Frazer to ask for a ruling, not one of his buddies. I also think it was a very poor decision by the TD, but he has the final say.

I think it's unfair to chastise a player for calling a ruling despite not being a hand. If people want clarifications on anything, I don't see how it's bad etiquette.

[bovie]

I DID

[MANTIS01]

And it's very easy to be robbed if you leave your front door wide open.

[NoflopsHomer]

Any up dates on Richard lewindon?
The guys a KILLA!!

He's on about 130k

[kukushkin88]

It's obviously a crazy ruling, this isn't how is was reported earlier though. The initial report said Frazer shoved after the river had been dealt and Priyan said "I've got to call you", totally different to what actually happened.