blonde & Poker Trillion

[tikay]

gl Tikay, Tighty and all in your ongoing negotiations.

PL seem determined not to allow the fact that PT owe money to another forum from being discussed on their site. Not much sympathy or support for another forum being shown there IMO.

And one feels not being honest with their members either.
Geo

In fact, if you wind the clock back 24 hours, our positions were identical.

The difference is this. We began to smell a rat, & agonised over whether "Duty of Care" v our Debt meant we should fess up to our members as to the problem. With hindsight, I wish we had done so earlier. I accept responsibility for that. Luckily, no harm came to anyone except the Company. (blonde).

It would seem to me, reading between the lines today, that either PL do not have any payment problems from Trillion, or they do, & are not as up to speed with the severity of the situation as we are.

It matters not, really, though it would be kinda useful if we could work together, as a Team, to collate info & move the thing forward to a successful settlement for everybody. I had hoped that would be the case, but PL have batted that away, on the front foot, so that's that. It changes nothing.

[tikay]

Credit to morlspin for posting. I also hope PL get this sorted out to their satisfaction.

Agreed, 100%. Graeme is trying to be constructive, not obstructive.

[tikay]

PL seem determined not to allow the fact that PT owe money to another forum from being discussed on their site. Not much sympathy or support for another forum being shown there IMO.

Im gonna try and justify our owners actions here for a second as to why we arent opening a discussion on this yet.

Basically, he wants to find out the facts, the details and the exact situation before getting involved in any wars of words, and in my eyes i can understand that.

Blonde have known about the problems for 7 months i beleive i read earlier, PL have known for a matter of weeks.........we just want some time to go through the details and sort it out properly as and when we get the bigger picture. Once this is done, im sure there will be an open discussion for all members and visitors to join in with.

I can pick up this one with the earlier the eariler posts made by BigFella & Geo the Sarge.

We don't have ny issues with Punters Lounge, never have. We respect other Poker Forums, & have a policy of geting along with them all, no cross-spamming, etc. That includes Punters Lounge.

They were, arguably,  rather brusque with Robert today, which I'm sad about, but that was Robert, not blonde. Robert can handle that. PL can do as they wish, it's their Forum.

".....Blonde have known about the problems for 7 months......"

Well no, that's disingenous. I never said that. I said the debt stretched back 7 months. People often pay a month or two late, three even, so it's 3 months down the line before alarm bells start ringing.

We became uneasy in, I guess, October or so. And we started probing, & debating, how to handle it then. A process I hope PL do not have to go through - I really do.

Some weeks ago, I made some subtle enquiries about Trillion's other alleged creditors, including, but not only, Punters Lounge. I got the message back, via an intermediary, "PL are not aware of any payment issues". Fair enough, that was the message I got. I was just compiling my dossier - it's a hefty one - & trying to fit all the evidence together.

I reiterate, we have no issues with Punters Lounge at all. I hope they escape unscathed.

Thanks Tony

Ive spoken to Rob tonight and im going to address the issues asap

You too, Mr Morl Sir, & it's all very sad, this friend v friend thing. It's what happens when the wheels fall off.

I hope you are well, & in good heart.  I have a whole bunch of friends at PL, & nothing has changed this end.

Your spot on mate, not nice seeing things like this happen to anyone let alone friends.

Im doing great thanks, will probably bump into you at one of the Sky Poker events coming up or at the virgin festival in newcastle if your there. Hope your well yourself too, last time i saw you, we were in Caesars Palace and you were a little worse for wear before the 11.30pm tourney lol

Worse for wear? I'm teetotal!

Though you may mean literally, tired & dishevelled, which may be true. I had a ball out there, but I spent 18 hours a day working, 4 hours a day sleeping, & 6 hours a day playing poker. Somehow, it never worked out right.

[morlspin]

PL seem determined not to allow the fact that PT owe money to another forum from being discussed on their site. Not much sympathy or support for another forum being shown there IMO.

Im gonna try and justify our owners actions here for a second as to why we arent opening a discussion on this yet.

Basically, he wants to find out the facts, the details and the exact situation before getting involved in any wars of words, and in my eyes i can understand that.

Blonde have known about the problems for 7 months i beleive i read earlier, PL have known for a matter of weeks.........we just want some time to go through the details and sort it out properly as and when we get the bigger picture. Once this is done, im sure there will be an open discussion for all members and visitors to join in with.

I can pick up this one with the earlier the eariler posts made by BigFella & Geo the Sarge.

We don't have ny issues with Punters Lounge, never have. We respect other Poker Forums, & have a policy of geting along with them all, no cross-spamming, etc. That includes Punters Lounge.

They were, arguably,  rather brusque with Robert today, which I'm sad about, but that was Robert, not blonde. Robert can handle that. PL can do as they wish, it's their Forum.

".....Blonde have known about the problems for 7 months......"

Well no, that's disingenous. I never said that. I said the debt stretched back 7 months. People often pay a month or two late, three even, so it's 3 months down the line before alarm bells start ringing.

We became uneasy in, I guess, October or so. And we started probing, & debating, how to handle it then. A process I hope PL do not have to go through - I really do.

Some weeks ago, I made some subtle enquiries about Trillion's other alleged creditors, including, but not only, Punters Lounge. I got the message back, via an intermediary, "PL are not aware of any payment issues". Fair enough, that was the message I got. I was just compiling my dossier - it's a hefty one - & trying to fit all the evidence together.

I reiterate, we have no issues with Punters Lounge at all. I hope they escape unscathed.

Thanks Tony

Ive spoken to Rob tonight and im going to address the issues asap

You too, Mr Morl Sir, & it's all very sad, this friend v friend thing. It's what happens when the wheels fall off.

I hope you are well, & in good heart.  I have a whole bunch of friends at PL, & nothing has changed this end.

Your spot on mate, not nice seeing things like this happen to anyone let alone friends.

Im doing great thanks, will probably bump into you at one of the Sky Poker events coming up or at the virgin festival in newcastle if your there. Hope your well yourself too, last time i saw you, we were in Caesars Palace and you were a little worse for wear before the 11.30pm tourney lol

Worse for wear? I'm teetotal!

Though you may mean literally, tired & dishevelled, which may be true. I had a ball out there, but I spent 18 hours a day working, 4 hours a day sleeping, & 6 hours a day playing poker. Somehow, it never worked out right.

All i can remember from that night was you running back into the cardroom for your tournament slip,saying you were bloody nackered and never got one off them and then some bad play from a fat american kid who destroyed my trip aces on the fllop with his all in move with nothing....only to hit runner runner 4 card flush in the 3rd hand to send me to the rail.

All the best Tony, see ya soon, im off to kip!

[Linux]

"Business is business, its seldom clean and always dirty, thats why we all love it"

Richard M Hare Nov 2007

[claretcougar]

"Business is business, its seldom clean and always dirty, thats why we all love it"

Richard M Hare Nov 2007

he was also saying before how justice had been done in this situation.......

[ChipRich]

"Business is business, its seldom clean and always dirty, thats why we all love it"

Richard M Hare Nov 2007

he was also saying before how justice had been done in this situation.......

gtfo, WHO the hell r u!

Every1s just trying to put it in my eye obv.

[Royal Flush]

"Business is business, its seldom clean and always dirty, thats why we all love it"

Richard M Hare Nov 2007

gtfo, WHO the hell r u!

Every1s just trying to put it in my eye obv.
he was also saying before how justice had been done in this situation.......

Stop typing and win the 75f imo

[ChipRich]

"Business is business, its seldom clean and always dirty, thats why we all love it"

Richard M Hare Nov 2007

gtfo, WHO the hell r u!

Every1s just trying to put it in my eye obv.
he was also saying before how justice had been done in this situation.......

Stop typing and win the 75f imo

DONE, weeeeeeeeeeee.

[sharky_uk]

I spun mine up and requested cash out.  Will let ya know once I have it.

Did you receive a confirmation email for your cash out? I didn't. Usually do! <-- Obv Brag LOL

[Laxie]

I spun mine up and requested cash out.  Will let ya know once I have it.

Did you receive a confirmation email for your cash out? I didn't. Usually do! <-- Obv Brag LOL

Nope.  Just checked and not received an email.  Also checked Neteller and it's not there either.  I'm sure we'll get it...after a week or two of red tape and hassle.

I've no doubt the money is safe with Everleaf, but I have a problem with donating another red cent to Trillion in rake.  They don't deserve it.  Suppose that's my choice and that's why I want the money out. 

[bolt pp]

Havent read the thread, got a rough idea of what's going on

pay up or im coming round to fuck everyone up.

[SuffolkPunch]

From what I remember cash out requests always took a day or so until you got confirmation email - plus it's now weekend, so best wait for Mon or Tues. And YES, I did cash out a few times, amazingly ;-)

[HOLDorFOLD]

gl Tikay, Tighty and all in your ongoing negotiations.

PL seem determined not to allow the fact that PT owe money to another forum from being discussed on their site. Not much sympathy or support for another forum being shown there IMO.

And one feels not being honest with their members either.
Geo

In fact, if you wind the clock back 24 hours, our positions were identical.

The difference is this. We began to smell a rat, & agonised over whether "Duty of Care" v our Debt meant we should fess up to our members as to the problem. With hindsight, I wish we had done so earlier. I accept responsibility for that. Luckily, no harm came to anyone except the Company. (blonde).

It would seem to me, reading between the lines today, that either PL do not have any payment problems from Trillion, or they do, & are not as up to speed with the severity of the situation as we are.

It matters not, really, though it would be kinda useful if we could work together, as a Team, to collate info & move the thing forward to a successful settlement for everybody. I had hoped that would be the case, but PL have batted that away, on the front foot, so that's that. It changes nothing.

This is exactly what I was thinking judging by the speed of response, and severity of response, to Roberts post.   

[sharky_uk]

From what I remember cash out requests always took a day or so until you got confirmation email - plus it's now weekend, so best wait for Mon or Tues. And YES, I did cash out a few times, amazingly ;-)

In the past my cash out confirmation emails have arrived promptly, even at the weekend!