It's in the game

[Royal Flush]

It's one of those where you aren't thrilled with calling

? I am delighted to be calling this!!


Are you that much of a nit these days! If i had known i wouldn't have 4 bet smashed JJ into your nit ass!

[MC]

It's one of those where you aren't thrilled with calling

? I am delighted to be calling this!!


Are you that much of a nit these days! If i had known i wouldn't have 4 bet smashed JJ into your nit ass!

LOL, I didn't realise that was you, was your SN Royal Flush? I musn't have been paying attention. I wouldn't have delayed a few seconds before calling if I knew it was you hehe.

The thing is here, you know either you're way ahead, he's way ahead, or he has a flush draw.

One of those options you're like 80%, one your 10-15%, and the other you're 70%. All are equally likely really. So that's a fair proportion of the time you don't win the pot....

[david3103]

Thanks all. I called, he showed 6,7 for a flopped straight.

The table agreed I had to call, as did my opponent, although in some warped, parallel universe (with the magical power of hindsight) I did feel I maybe could have passed.

Who am I kidding?!! I was always calling. I just like taking my time lol.

He raised 67off from Early Position? How 'decent' is that?

[SnipeR]

I call ..sounds like  an kind of hand to me.

+1


INSTA CALL!!!

[SnipeR]

Lol now the answer has been revealed.....i wud still call this, at this level every single time!!.....F*&K me what are u playing for , pokerstars wearing gayers at the 50p tables are dogging bankroll boosting fishays.....,

[SnipeR]

Also....why just call the raise??, i think u should have reraised to £15.....or folded, calling there is bad imo.....

[AlexMartin]

wow, for slowrolling you should turn the house and then a freak gust of wind should muck your cards. you have a huge hand, when he has a bigger one thats life and why poker isnt chess.

[Pyso]

I assume you mean pre-flop SnipeR? I like playing 9,8 in position with good implied odds against three deepstacks, but because it's against 3 other players I didn't feel a pre-flop raise here was warranted. But it's an interesting idea.

I had very little info on the guy really. He hadn't been at the table long, had gone deep in the tournament and had sat down with us and was pretty active, already increasing his stack by 50 %. He was chatty too and seemed to have a decent grasp of the game. I agree that raising from ep with 6,7 is pretty creative but if Gus Hansen does it, he is lauded for being a genius...

At the time I did have a strong 'feeling' that he did indeed have the straight, but because I knew so little about him, I had to call for all the reasons stated. If it had been my mate down the pub I would have passed in a heart beat as he only ever raises with trash and only ever pushes all in with the nuts...! But Poker Stars hoodie man was a different matter...

Oh, and I'm being accused of slow rolling - well, I was never doing that because I genuinely thought I may be beat - for £150 I like to take a little time. Maybe that's just me. If he had shown a big over pair then I suppose he might have had a go at me, but this is cash and I think for your entire stack you should be a llowed a little time. In a tournament it would have been an instant call, especially in the DTD crapshoots on a wednesday night.

[SnipeR]

I assume you mean pre-flop SnipeR? I like playing 9,8 in position with good implied odds against three deepstacks, but because it's against 3 other players I didn't feel a pre-flop raise here was warranted. But it's an interesting idea.

I had very little info on the guy really. He hadn't been at the table long, had gone deep in the tournament and had sat down with us and was pretty active, already increasing his stack by 50 %. He was chatty too and seemed to have a decent grasp of the game. I agree that raising from ep with 6,7 is pretty creative but if Gus Hansen does it, he is lauded for being a genius...

At the time I did have a strong 'feeling' that he did indeed have the straight, but because I knew so little about him, I had to call for all the reasons stated. If it had been my mate down the pub I would have passed in a heart beat as he only ever raises with trash and only ever pushes all in with the nuts...! But Poker Stars hoodie man was a different matter...
Oh, and I'm being accused of slow rolling - well, I was never doing that because I genuinely thought I may be beat - for £150 I like to take a little time. Maybe that's just me. If he had shown a big over pair then I suppose he might have had a go at me, but this is cash and I think for your entire stack you should be a llowed a little time. In a tournament it would have been an instant call, especially in the DTD crapshoots on a wednesday night.

In a cash game with three players and a raise involved , u have the button, the power and position...use it...u reraise to say £15-£20 (there is £18 in middle now)  and get called u can narrow the range right down to a few hands (unless hes stu ungar incarnate), u get reraised leave it and move on....u either win big or lose small....poker is not just about the amounts u win but also limiting the amounts u lose...lets say he folded (67 man) and the other called with Ak.....he may also put you on similar and your gonna get paid, if you ever lose in this spot its just plain unlucky....its a semi cooler, next hand plz!!....

[Pyso]

Yes, I like your logic here. If I had have re-raised preflop the 6,7 guy would almost certainly have passed, and that flop, were there any takers, would likely have won me a few quid. Even if they had all passed (also likely) I would have won £12 which would have been a £170 improvement on what did happen. Lol.

Thanks for the input. I often raise with these sorts of hands on the button but to be honest I rarely re-raise an ep raise with them but I could get used to the idea... As you say, the worst that could happen is I get re-popped and I lose £15. Not a disaster.

[totalise]

I dont normally like the "what were you hoping to hit if you call with X-X" thinking, but this hand seems like a perfect spot to ask this question. You cant really call with hands like this, flop top 2, and then think about folding.. because one of the main reasons you call with hands like this is because your opponent will overvalue weak holdings,  and this is the perfect kind of flop for them to "overvalue"


If you want to call here, flop top 2 pair, and then want to consider a fold, you probably might want to consider not calling preflop in the first place, and just make your money smashing pots and making your coin without showdown.