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« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2005, 12:36:22 PM »

Sorry, had to share this bad beat as got noone to moan at - Its got nothing to do with the Poker Club but I'm on tilt in my room at the Bellagio.

I sit down at the $50-£100 No limit cash game with $25,000. All players on the table with at least that in chips.

I get AA UTG and limp for $100

Seat 3 raises to $600

The button flat calls the $600

I call the extra $500 and re-raise $2400 (I know I’d get action as I’d done this with pocket 2’s 3 hand earlier and shown when the guy showed his poker jacks and passed).

Seat 3 passes

The button flatcalls.

Flop 2 4 7 (2 clubs)

I bet  $5,000 and he flat calls, I think he has JJ or QQ.

Turn comes another 2, perfect, I weak bet $8,000 and he goes ALL-IN and I call in a flash

OVER $50,000 IN THE POT

He shows QQ and I flip over AA

XXXXXXX QUEEN ON THE RIVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, back to the poker club diary........................................

 
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« Reply #46 on: December 07, 2005, 01:14:00 PM »

URGGG!! We will forgive you that one
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« Reply #47 on: December 07, 2005, 02:00:52 PM »

I feel sick just reading it.
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« Reply #48 on: December 07, 2005, 02:38:17 PM »

that's so much cash omg... now you have to call your club 'the two outer'....
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« Reply #49 on: December 07, 2005, 03:02:02 PM »

Damn that's sick, many more of those and you'll end up like this 
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« Reply #50 on: December 08, 2005, 06:20:13 AM »

Having slept on my $50,000 2 outer bad beat in the cash game,I've now completely forgot about it and will never mention it again. The end of the year is approaching and all the gambling disasters of 2005 will be written off when the new year starts.

Over the whole year I'm £31,547 down on what I call "recreational" gambling, which is a combination of Poker, Blackjack and Football Betting + expenses. Its sort all started going downhill from the WSOP after a promissing first 6 months. However, my "business gambling" has gone alright in 2005, so on overall, we're in reasonable profit.

I draw no distiction between business and gambling, as far as I am concerned, any activity that can win or lose you money, is "gambling". "Business" just looks more respectable from the outside, but I can promise you it is not. In poker you have to beat the rake, the moodies and your own personal discipine, in business you're got the banks, lawyers and certain employees making life difficult for you, its all the same thing, its all "gambling" - which gives me my adrenaline kick.

One of the highlights of the year for me was my WSOP diary, whick TK persuaded me to write, I'm dead chuffed that people who I have never met or spoken to enjoyed reading something that I wrote, believe it or not, I'm quite a private person. I guess this and general "niceness" of people on this site, and the people I have met over the last 2 years playing poker, are the reasons why I want to be more involved in poker by opening a club etc. I admit that some of the poker community are pretty selfish individuals, but I've met some top people who I would never have come accross if I had not played poker, and the club is a chance to bring all these people together.

Anyway, I'm all packed and ready to get my flight tomorrow. The trip has been a net profit of $20,000 after all expenses, so I can't really grumble about the $50,000 2 outer last night (that I will never mention again...). The Bellagio have paid for all my drinks, food and a beautiful suite looking over the Vegas strip. My casino host even agreed to pay $5,000 to cover my flight costs from England...........all this to get me on their Blackjack tables.....................so a profit gives me a warm feeling of accomplishment inside. Being a degenerate gambler I need to take a minute to savour moments like this, treat myself to the free mochachino in my mini bar (normally $8) whilst posting on Blonde via their internet connections (normally $10.95 per day).

Chubby Nowab is coming round to mine on Friday to discuss his role in the new venture, he's offered to put £50,000 in himself but I can't see the point, as over time this money will be mine at Heads-Up anyway. Seriously though, Simon used to run his own advertising and marketing company before he became a full time poker pro, so he can bring key skills to the overall venture. I think he also wants to get his teeth into something else, as he's been doing the poker circuit for some time now. If we can agree something, he'll be the Marketing Consultant.

I also need to draft up something for Action Jack, who I am trying to persuade to be the Online Consultant. I'm sure I mentioned in a previous threads that we are going to have our own online poker software, and we have taken on an Applications Programmer to head this up, Pete Langley (the big guy at my home game). This way we will be able to allow people to spend/withdraw their "online cash" in the club so people don't have to worry about carrying cash etc. It also means that people can enter comps online so they know they have a seat. I am very consious that we should try and have the least amount of cash in the club as possible for security reasons. There's a load of work to do here, and I estimate this won't be operational until 12 months after the club has opened. This is a massive challenge, similar to what I did few years ago when I bought an IT software company to develop my own recruitment software, everyone who was anyone said i was an idiot to do it (the result was it costs loads more than I thought, was a massive ball ache, was finished 1 year late BUT was worth all the pain in the end).

I'm being pretty open and honest about what my thought processes here, talking about money and even mentioning peoples name etc but I don't see the big deal, when this club opens I want the members to know what it has taken to get in off the ground and I quite like documenting my thoughts. It may seem a bit strange to people who don't know me, but I like things this way. People who read my posts have been great, PM'ing me with ideas etc. I may not the most confidential guy in the world but everyone who works with or for me trusts me implicity. This is the greatest compliment anyone can be given. I have over 700 people employed in my businesses using this honest approach, but I do get slagged off for it! This venture will employ over 60 people, so its no small beer either, and without the support of its members it will fail miserably. I'm getting over 150 people reading this thread everyday, thats 150 potential customers, nearly 20% of what I need to break even, so I don't see it as a problem telling everyone what's going on.

I am getting a bit nervous about the premises again now, we were supposed to sign Dec 1st, mind you, I was in Vegas so couldn't have signed anyway!


Cheers Rob




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« Reply #51 on: December 09, 2005, 12:42:58 AM »

fascinating stuff rob,
please keep spilling the beans!
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« Reply #52 on: December 09, 2005, 01:20:54 AM »

Rob

I'm not usually so sycophantic but for you I will make an exception

I admire people who break the mold or buck the system, I admire those who do it with dignity and compassion even more, a hard head and a soft heart is a great combination

If you find the time, please continue to write, your stuff is inspiring, uplifting and breathtakingly honest, you have a rare and wonderful talent

Good luck

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« Reply #53 on: December 11, 2005, 02:01:34 AM »

We had a meeting at my place last night to try and decide a name for the club. This had even more importance, because we finally received the sign off for the premises yesterday - HOORAY AT LAST.

Both sets of solicitors have now been instructed and subject to gaining a liquor licence (which we have been told is a formaility), we FINALLY have secured our premises. This has been a very protracted process and I have always had a niggling doubt that they may be playing me off against another interested party, but, its seem that there were just very slow.

SO, THIS CLUB WILL HAPPEN (IF WE DON'T GET A GAMING LICENCE WE'LL JUST PLAY WITH NO JUICE OR RAKE!)

When I first posted on this site my intentions of this venture, I always said that the toughest part was the RIGHT premises, and we have now achieved that. We have also managed to negotiate a reduction from the £325,000 per annum asking price, to £200,000 per annum. We will also pay nothing for the first 12 months, while we have no revenues and are refurbishing the place.

These premises, in Nottingham, opposite the Showcase Cinema compex, are absolutely perfect. It would be impossible for anyone to find us a better place in the future, planning, 226 parking spaces, 10 mins from J24 of the M1, 15 mins from East Midlands Airport, already with restaurant and bar facilites. We have a lease for 15 years with a 10 year tenents break clause (ie. we can leave in 10 years if we go broke, but they can only chuck us out after 15 years). A good result.

Anyway, we printed off all of the Blonde thread ("Name the Club"), and pooled all of the other suggestion together. After 3 hours we have decided to call the club:

"from DUSK tilt Dawn"

...............because:


- after the Quentin Tarantino film "from Dusk till Dawn" starring George Clooney. There was a rather interesting Club in that film for those who haven't seen it.
- The club will be open from around "dusk" until "dawn".
- part of poker is about finishing a long session and walking out of the casino at "dawn", your eyes hurting from the light
- and the "till" can be changed to  "tilt" which is a poker term we all know about (and I do after the £750 Lunton comp tonight!)
- its one of my favourite films

I hope you will all like it in time, its a bit strange but I'm sure it will catch on in the eventually.

Simon "Chubby" Nowab
has now become the newest member of the "team" to help with the venture, after a meeting at my house today. Simon will be helping me with the "Marketing" of the venture on a full time basis from January 2006. After a lengthy and tough negotiation process of 30 seconds we shook hands on a deal, on the basis that he should try something else since he was pretty crap at poker.  No, seriously, Simon will still be seen playing tournaments accross the UK but for pleasure, which means he will be playing even "looser" if that is actually possible (he nearly lasted the 1st level at Luton tonight, but just fell short).

Because, of the crazy costs of running this place, (over £120,000 per month) the "Advance Marketing" of the club before it opens is absolutley critical to us no going bankrupt too quicky, and if manage to do a good job, will hopefully delay it for as long as possible. Marketing Guru, Chubby Nowab, I have faith...........


Cheers Rob







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« Reply #54 on: December 11, 2005, 02:06:14 AM »



Though please make sure none of the staff are vampires.

Oh and if you can, get Salma Hayek in to do 'that' dance. Wink
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« Reply #55 on: December 11, 2005, 02:17:36 AM »

Rob, Excellent stuff, I am a bit like you dont like showing my feelings but I think you have this spot on , good luck and all the best
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« Reply #56 on: December 11, 2005, 02:25:01 AM »

Excellent Rob, great news.  I cant even imagine how you feel but this is seriously getting exciting.
 I cannot wait for this to happen and i LOVE the name.  Not on the same scale but i went through that when i bought my chippy - trying to think of a name.  In the end i chicken'd out and left it as it was (the name of the bloody road)!  No balls.

Anyway - keep the updates coming mate, you have no idea how exillerating they are to the average jo.

One more thing if there was a way round not being banned from all casino's then i would work for you like a shot!
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« Reply #57 on: December 11, 2005, 05:56:14 AM »

Excellent Rob, great news.  I cant even imagine how you feel but this is seriously getting exciting.
 I cannot wait for this to happen and i LOVE the name.  Not on the same scale but i went through that when i bought my chippy - trying to think of a name.  In the end i chicken'd out and left it as it was (the name of the bloody road)!  No balls.

Anyway - keep the updates coming mate, you have no idea how exillerating they are to the average jo.

One more thing if there was a way round not being banned from all casino's then i would work for you like a shot!

Chilli, if you work FOR or IN the LIVE CLUB you cannot as an employee or director you cannot play poker in other casinos (without the permission of me and the other casino organisation - mine would not be a problem). However, there might be other work available outside of the live club but related to poker so you never know. I can't promise anything, but there may be, I'm not sure yet but will let you know if anything appropriate comes up as I want as many poker fans to be involved as possible. This is an issue that I will be taking up with the gaming board on Tuesday so I will let you know after that. Also, its something that really cheeses me off, but I must not and will not break any of the Gaming Board rules, period, full stop, non negotiatable, end of story. We must not play into anyones hands who would not like to see this club happen!!

Cheers Rob
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« Reply #58 on: December 11, 2005, 11:11:32 AM »

Great news Rob.

When's the party ?
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« Reply #59 on: December 11, 2005, 11:39:02 AM »

The opening night is going to be one hell of an occasion.
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