"Dusk till Dawn" Poker Club In Nottingham Diary (by Rob Yong)

[booder]

Fingers x!

yep. Goodluck Rob let's hope the GC has some sense and understands just how good a deal it would be for the UK/European pokercommunity.

 

[robyong]

Having heard about the Gutshot Case today, I am feeling a bit dissapointed. This result was bad news for Dusk Till Dawn for 2 main reasons :

1. If we do not get our licence there is no "grey area" left to operate a poker club outside of the existing casino network
2. In my view, this verdict makes it actually more unlikey that there will be a separate licence for poker clubs in the near future

My legal guys are very very condident of us getting through the process successfully, both the hearing on the 25th and the following local magistrates court application, but I am getting more and more doubtful (I'm now just about 2-1 that we get it) based on the following reasoning:

1. The length of time the whole process has taken
2. The general preference of The Gaming Board to keep poker in "familiar places" ie. existing casinos
3. The limitation of licences over the next 10 years (17 is the max I have been told). ie. we could be seen as a "wasted licence" to the general casino industry
4. The fact that I know existing casino groups have lobbied aganist DTD already (surpise surprise)

Hmmm, maybe I am being a bit negative, but normally when I have a bad feeling, 9 times out of 10...........

I was due in Copenhagen today, but due to other stuff I have to sort out, it won't be possible to arrive till Friday, the day of the DTD launch party. Paul Zimbler and his partner, Tat, have organised this on DTD's behalf, and from what Paul has showed me, it looks like it will be a good night.

Stuff is happening here everyday, things going wrong, and the odd thing goes right. Yesterday we had our highest rake generation day in the online business, we are already bigger then a lot of existing sites even though we have only been in operation for 4 weeks, however, we are far away from the breakeven point I need to get to. I'm managing this business from my office in my house, its not really very professional, and I'll look forward to Nick coming and helping me when the re-fit finishes in March / April, and we'll can set up proper offices etc

Each day I learn more and more about the online business, I guess it will be the same when the live club opens. A significant number of online poker players expect to win every session, pay £0 rake and not risk any of their own money, and I still have the nagging issue of DTD being seen as a "Rob Yong Freeroll" by far too many people........I like to look after people.......but sometimes lol. These are issues that I need to deal with but not at the moment, I just need to get the gaming hearing out of the way, then everything will be a lot clearer and I can sit back and review what I have learnt over the last 18 months of this project.

I'm sorry I have not posted as frequently, I have just been doing 20 hour days, 7 days per week, and not been in the mood to write. Delegation is a key part of being successful in business,  I know this, but in a start up, its sometimes not always possible, this is why start-ups can often fail. I can however see some light at the end of the tunnel, but its a little glimmer, not a flashing blaze yet....

When I write this diary, I don't really consider that other people will be reading it, I just write what comes into my head. I'd like to keep it up until the opening night of the club, and then i'll copy and paste the whole thing for my records, or maybe I'll just delete it....we'll see what the outcome is on the 25th next week

Cheers Rob

[tikay]

I'd remind everyone that Rob has generously agreed to sponsor the blonde forum, the Live Updates, and generally support blonde in various ways during 2007. We are midway through changing our Webmasters, so the banners & stuff have yet to be uploaded, but we shoild be shipshape within a few days.

Now, more than ever, Rob needs to feel your support, he's in this up to his neck - talk about "pot-committed" - so do please continue to show your support for him & his Team. He's been a blonde supporter fom day One, & nobody is more worthy of our support.

[Bainn]

Good luck for the 25th, positive vibes will be sent.

Try and unwind a little and have a cracking time at the DTD party in Copenhagen.

All the best.

[turny]

best of luck for the 25th rob, this thread has been an amazing read and like all good fairytales should have a happy ending 

[Harmony26]

Just wanted to wish you all the very best for the 25th., Rob.  Would just like to echo Bainn and inthebelly posts.

Take care.

[kinboshi]

Best of luck with it Rob 

Tell the hearing if they don't give you the license you'll send Tikay round to talk to them about trains...that should do the trick.

I'll see you on Friday when you're over here in Copenhagen. 

[thetank]

I'm not stepping on any cracks in the pavement till the 25th. Hope it helps.

 

[ripple11]

 I'm with your legal team Rob!! ....be positive, you've crossed every: t "and dotted every" i "they have asked.
The bottom line with the Gutshot is the GC wanted them to comply and apply for the appropiate proper licence....and surely thats what you've done to the letter.

 

[Tractor]

GL Rob, have a blast at the party!

[Stone]

GL Rob, I know its been said before but we poker players need a safe and fun environment to play, somewhere where the mgt have a real interest in the game. Much as I appreciate what the Cardroom staff do at casinos up and down the land, we all know that the large companies behind them don't care that much.

I'm currently out in San Fransico with work, I've been to Bay101, Lucky Chances, Artichoke Joes, all of them going out of their way to put Poker Players 1st. California has a thriving 24hr poker environment where Cash games rule, but you can find many forms of the game (stud, Omaha8, limit and No Limit) including some well run tournies.

Rob getting his club up and running, is key for the future of UK poker IMO. I applaud what Derek at the Gutshot and Roy at Loosecannons have done, but for those of us outside London we need Rob's plan to work.

Come on Gaming Commision, don't have your heads turned by those suits at the big boys, do something important for the country. 

[Jim-D]

GL Rob, I know its been said before but we poker players need a safe and fun environment to play, somewhere where the mgt have a real interest in the game. Much as I appreciate what the Cardroom staff do at casinos up and down the land, we all know that the large companies behind them don't care that much.

I'm currently out in San Fransico with work, I've been to Bay101, Lucky Chances, Artichoke Joes, all of them going out of their way to put Poker Players 1st. California has a thriving 24hr poker environment where Cash games rule, but you can find many forms of the game (stud, Omaha8, limit and No Limit) including some well run tournies.

Rob getting his club up and running, is key for the future of UK poker IMO. I applaud what Derek at the Gutshot and Roy at Loosecannons have done, but for those of us outside London we need Rob's plan to work.

Come on Gaming Commision, don't have your heads turned by those suits at the big boys, do something important for the country. 

 

[Jayb]

 I'm with your legal team Rob!! ....be positive, you've crossed every: t "and dotted every" i "they have asked.
The bottom line with the Gutshot is the GC wanted them to comply and apply for the appropiate proper licence....and surely thats what you've done to the letter.

 

I totally agree with ripple, the GC have asked you to jump through hoops during the process of getting this licence and from what I can see you have delivered on every occasion.

It actually seems ludicrous to even comprehend them not giving you the licence.

It would be like you holding     on a         Board  and the dealer pushes the pot over to the guy holding ……it wouldn’t happen you have the nuts.

I won’t wish you luck because I think you have taken that out of the equation, if you don’t get the licence it will be a travesty.

(I'll get off my soap box now........)

[boldie]

BTW....I do expect to see the catsuit girls at DTD when i come over.

[byronkincaid]

How cool would it be to have Cheech on the door on the opening night

Poker, Poker, Poker, Come on in Poker Lovers.....



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