SNG - AK 4 handed - Tight villain shoves

[EvilPie]

It's a 6 seat sng so it's not quite the bubble.

Stacks are:-

Hero (SB) - 4140
Oppo 1 (BB) - 3210
Oppo 2 (UTG) - 620
Oppo 3 - (D) - 1030

I've got limited notes here but all 3 oppos are very tight. I'm definitely on an easy table and with my stack I'm expecting an easy cash.

Blinds are at 100/200

Oppo 2 shoves his 620 in which was expected. He's tight but his range here obviously doesn't worry me.

Now the problem. Oppo3 who is uber tight shoves over the top for his 1030.

I've got him down as a limp folder with 5bbs. Limp then check to river and lose with 66 on 6bbs. He's a losing player and ridic tight. His range here is probably 1010+, AJ+. Did I mention he's tight?

So given my current advantage with my stack and the fact that I'm not a big favourite against 2 oppos with atc regardless of their playing styles should I pass?

Also as previously stated these are very weak players so I'm confident I can bully my way to victory anyway.

Do I need to risk putting oppo3 back in the game with an extra 1030 chips?

I hope this isn't a stupid question, it just got me thinking afterwards.

[Robert HM]

Oppo 3 is also likely to be aware that Oppo 2's range is going to be ATC and is probably to be going in with A rag. I would be tempted to join in the fun.





disclaimer: I'm crap.

[booder]

shove.  end thread.

[Royal Flush]

Please stop messing about its 5 fucking BB's get it in!

[EvilPie]

Oppo 3 is also likely to be aware that Oppo 2's range is going to be ATC and is probably to be going in with A rag. I would be tempted to join in the fun.

Oppo 3 is ridic tight. At best I'm against AJ from him which is obv fine. At worse it's a pair. He doesn't shove here with A8 A9 I'm sure of that. He really is that tight!!

If oppo 2 has any 2 random cards I'm then AK against 3 other cards possibly behind to a pair anyway. I'm probably not a favourite to win the hand.

I did shove btw just wondered what the correct strategy would be here for an sng and thought I may have done the wrong thing.

I'm pretty sure that given my stack, it not being the bubble and the fact it's 5bbs it's a shove but I have a feeling it's close. I'm against 2 oppos and we end up 3 handed with level stacks on the bubble if oppo 3 wins.

My sngwiz isn't working atm so if someone could run it for me I'd appreciate it.

[EvilPie]

Please stop messing about its 5 fucking BB's get it in!

I did man!!

It was only afterwards that I thought about it more carefully and wondered if I'd done right.

[booder]

I'm against 2 oppos and we end up 3 handed with level stacks on the bubble if oppo 3 wins.

heads up with c/l if we win

[EvilPie]

I'm against 2 oppos and we end up 3 handed with level stacks on the bubble if oppo 3 wins.

heads up with c/l if we win

Yep that's true also. It's just these sngs sometimes have odd maths quirks that makes this kind of hand a pass.

I was just interested tbh. Like I say I shoved.

[mondatoo]

I think you seem to be over-complicating things with your recent threads on sng games.Both we're very standard situations which i believe you know,did you bubble this and are just being results orientated with your confidence taking a hit,just how it reads to me

[EvilPie]

I think you seem to be over-complicating things with your recent threads on sng games.Both we're very standard situations which i believe you know,did you bubble this and are just being results orientated with your confidence taking a hit,just how it reads to me

Lost the hand, Won the game. Also won the game with the KK hand btw.

I've only posted 2 dude. Confidence is fine. I called and I lost and I don't have a problem with that.

The KK hand was standard I'll admit. I don't think this one's quite so clear cut though. Given my stack it probably is easy but I'd be interested to know if there's a level where this becomes a pass.

Just wanted a bit of analysis that's all.

[Longy]

Looks like a call to me with them be both so relatively short and you having them massively covered. I am not sure exactly what wiz will say as i don't play 6manners.

Also ak plays pretty well in this spot against even the tightest of ranges.

Edit just wiz'd it and even if i put them on really nitty range it is a +ev shove.

[EvilPie]

Looks like a call to me with them be both so relatively short and you having them massively covered. I am not sure exactly what wiz will say as i don't play 6manners.

Also ak plays pretty well in this spot against even the tightest of ranges.

Edit just wiz'd it and even if i put them on really nitty range it is a +ev shove.

Thanks for that mate. I thought it would be.

He had AA btw. I had him down as tight at this stage but changed his range to super tight after the HU. I hope I can find him again.

Cheers

[mondatoo]

I think you seem to be over-complicating things with your recent threads on sng games.Both we're very standard situations which i believe you know,did you bubble this and are just being results orientated with your confidence taking a hit,just how it reads to me

Lost the hand, Won the game. Also won the game with the KK hand btw.

I've only posted 2 dude. Confidence is fine. I called and I lost and I don't have a problem with that.

The KK hand was standard I'll admit. I don't think this one's quite so clear cut though. Given my stack it probably is easy but I'd be interested to know if there's a level where this becomes a pass.

Just wanted a bit of analysis that's all.

My mistake,keep up the good work then

ps What happened to your self imposed online ban

[MC]

Still have to shove against uber-tighty...added equity in the pot from dude shoving anything, and uber-tighty doesn't have AA or KK often enough for me here, although he did this time

[MANTIS01]

Also as previously stated these are very weak players so I'm confident I can bully my way to victory anyway.

Calling is a freeroll cos even if you call & lose the dynamics of the game don't really change. They certainly don't change anywhere near enough to stop this still being a reality anyway.