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« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2009, 02:42:09 AM »

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I know what I paid for my stock and that sets the bar.

but it doesn't, not if your sentiment is to be believed. IF you truly want blonde to succeed, then you shouldnt care about profit or loss, all you should care about is giving your stock to a person that wants to turn this place into a profitable enterprise. Amount paid does not equal intention.

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« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2009, 04:55:16 AM »

Dennis has never asked for more than he paid for the shares. Not to me anyway.
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« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2009, 06:54:43 AM »

The value of shares may go up or down
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« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2009, 07:52:18 AM »

The value of shares may go up or down
And surely they must have gone down at this present time.
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« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2009, 09:33:38 AM »

The value of shares may go up or down
And surely they must have gone down at this present time.

Which I assume is the difficulty.

But however good people's intention are you can only let goodwill and being 'nice' go so far when it comes to your finances.

It would be unreasonable to expect too much (the definition of 'too much' might be open to interpretation though).
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« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2009, 09:42:48 AM »

Selling them to a consortium of blondes would be a nightmare.  The only way this could happen is for the group to get together, work out how much they have, then approach the seller as a single buyer rather than a group of individual people.    Little point speculating on this thread about it, form a group then approach Dennis and take it from there.

I'd be interested myself, but if Flushy hasn't snapped it all up, then I definatley can't afford it Cheesy
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« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2009, 09:49:37 AM »

Stake Fergus to be majority shareholder ftw imo lol mbfn rolf tl;dr tez etc etc
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« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2009, 09:51:19 AM »

Selling them to a consortium of blondes would be a nightmare.  The only way this could happen is for the group to get together, work out how much they have, then approach the seller as a single buyer rather than a group of individual people. 
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I was thinking something similar.

That it would basically have to be one person who could negotiate a price and do all the work basically, and have the rest of the consortium as purely investors. Possibly with some kind of AGM to discuss general aims perhaps, but essentially with just a single figurehead to take responsibility, because obviously there would be work to do after the shares were bought as well the process of buying them.
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« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2009, 10:17:17 AM »

"Sir Jack Hayward has agreed to "gift" Wolverhampton Wanderers to business Steve Morgan for a mere £10. As part of the deal, which should be formalised over the coming month, Morgan has agreed to invest £30m "for the benefit of the club".

Hayward bought Wolves for £2m in 1990 and has since then invested some £50m of his fortune into the club. He has been searching for someone to hand the club over to since 2003, but always insisted that his concern was not to make a financial killing on the deal but to ensure new life was breathed into the club. He has previously rejected takeover bids by, amongst others, Graeme Souness. "In Steve Morgan, Sir Jack feels he has finally found someone who not only has the best interests of the club at heart but also has the resources necessary to take over the responsibility for returning the club to its former greatness," read a club statement."

Look how successfull the Wolves are now - perhaps this could be a lesson for you!
Find someone with the available wonga and the right business acumen to take Blonde forward.
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« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2009, 10:28:35 AM »

... since then invested some £50m of his fortune into the club. ...

avoiding losing more millions of pounds of his own money by selling the club for a tenner probably isn't the best example of commercial altruism you could give.
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« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2009, 11:01:30 AM »


Find someone with the available wonga and the right business acumen to take Blonde forward.


the site needs, the cost base sadly already lower to reflect some of the below

a) Shareholders active and facing in the same direction

b) New investment, if possible. Because of issues of dilution raising fresh capital for this requires point a) as a pre-condition

c) Better trading conditions, whether that be advertising markets, sponsorship markets or via improved card-room rake, which might be achieved by a better card-room offering, more promotion, a broader base of players or disposable income of the recreational players being higher.

Not too much to ask for then.

It has "the right business acumen" but asking that business acumen to succeed with both hands and legs tied up isn't that condusive.
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« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2009, 11:37:16 AM »

Isn't it a tax write off to sell at a loss anyway?  Win win all around really, if that's the case.

I'm in the same camp as Silo.  Can't see us having the dosh if Flushy's interested and the deal isn't already sealed.
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« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2009, 12:01:50 PM »

Isn't it a tax write off to sell at a loss anyway?  Win win all around really, if that's the case.

I'm in the same camp as Silo.  Can't see us having the dosh if Flushy's interested and the deal isn't already sealed.

It is a tax write off but obviously this doesnt cover the money youve just lost on the sale of your shares.
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« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2009, 12:47:07 PM »



It has "the right business acumen" but asking that business acumen to succeed with both hands and legs tied up isn't that condusive.


Was never meant as an attack on you tightEnd as no one can deny the efforts, time or the financial resouces that you have put into Blonde. You have already stated yourself that there are better busiiness modules out there.

I was just voicing my thoughts that whoever buy's the shares should also prove that
1) They have got the capital to ensure that the business modules needed to get Blonde on at least an even playing field with AWOP are there.
2) An agenda in place with time scales to get all the work that needs to be done.
3) The right business acumen to take Blonde forward.

Perhaps you should speak to Richard Branson, Blonde-Virgin or Virgin-Blondes have a certain ring about them.


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« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2009, 12:53:27 PM »



It has "the right business acumen" but asking that business acumen to succeed with both hands and legs tied up isn't that condusive.


Was never meant as an attack on you tightEnd as no one can deny the efforts, time or the financial resouces that you have put into Blonde. You have already stated yourself that there are better busiiness modules out there.

I was just voicing my thoughts that whoever buy's the shares should also prove that
1) They have got the capital to ensure that the business modules needed to get Blonde on at least an even playing field with AWOP are there.
2) An agenda in place with time scales to get all the work that needs to be done.
3) The right business acumen to take Blonde forward.

Perhaps you should speak to Richard Branson, Blonde-Virgin or Virgin-Blondes have a certain ring about them.




And, as an added bonus, if Branson were to put him grubby little attention whoring fingers on the forum and slap a big Virgin sticker on it and run it like his airline...I'd leave Smiley
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