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« on: February 20, 2009, 11:37:34 PM »

Villain is a straightforward bad tag. plays 20/13/2.5 style. Notes say weakish passive, possibly floats, views me as a little nuts.

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NL $1/$2 Texas Hold'em - Friday, February 20, 22:09:33 GMT 2009
Table Oxygen 26 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of active players : 5
Seat 1: Sterretjee ( $257.30 )
Seat 2: TenderTrap ( $680.02 )
Seat 3: Tarkalqsnik ( $230.05 )
Seat 4: JammyJenny ( $213.97 )
Seat 5: PALERMOOOOO ( $0 )
Seat 6: PeteHome ( $78.75 )
TenderTrap posts small blind [$1]
Tarkalqsnik posts big blind [$2]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to JammyJenny [ , ]
JammyJenny raises to [$7]
PeteHome folds
Sterretjee calls [$7]
TenderTrap folds
Tarkalqsnik folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
JammyJenny bets [$12]
Sterretjee calls [$12]
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2009, 12:32:18 PM »

If he's floating, then he will probably be planning on making a move on the turn... I would c/r turn i thnk, which will prob take the pot down alot of the time, obv you still got outs if called and you can be pretty sure he's got it if he comes back over the top..

I dont really like barrelling, depending on how agressive he is, he may bluff raise you and put you in a tough spot?!

Would be interested in your thoughts tho?
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2009, 12:57:56 PM »

If he's floating, then he will probably be planning on making a move on the turn... I would c/r turn i thnk, which will prob take the pot down alot of the time, obv you still got outs if called and you can be pretty sure he's got it if he comes back over the top..

I dont really like barrelling, depending on how agressive he is, he may bluff raise you and put you in a tough spot?!

Would be interested in your thoughts tho?

^^Agree with this completely, looks like a good plan...
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2009, 01:41:00 PM »

If he's floating, then he will probably be planning on making a move on the turn... I would c/r turn i thnk, which will prob take the pot down alot of the time, obv you still got outs if called and you can be pretty sure he's got it if he comes back over the top..

I dont really like barrelling, depending on how agressive he is, he may bluff raise you and put you in a tough spot?!

Would be interested in your thoughts tho?

good post T-mar. I agree FWLIW

If he checks behind we could get paid off if we hit and overbet the river as our line looks like a bluff but c-raise on turn looks super strong too and does the job a lot too.
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2009, 01:56:33 PM »

If he's floating, then he will probably be planning on making a move on the turn... I would c/r turn i thnk, which will prob take the pot down alot of the time, obv you still got outs if called and you can be pretty sure he's got it if he comes back over the top..

I dont really like barrelling, depending on how agressive he is, he may bluff raise you and put you in a tough spot?!

Would be interested in your thoughts tho?

he was more likely to have a hand in my eyes, but dont think he can ever really have much right? Also i expect him to peel with all pps JJ-88 for one street, we dont really have enough history for him to peel two barrels light though.

 Doesnt coldcall A7/A6, so has a marginal Ace like AJ/A10 or a hand like 89s/78s/45s and the sets obv.

if we make any substantial cr we are gonna be getting three to one if he shoves. Im not convinced we can fold our hand then given he could be pushing dominated draws some of the time and our 10/K could be live........

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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2009, 02:14:02 PM »

I don't like turn C/R

We either just win the pot with his 1 extra bet in there or we get pot stuck for his stack vs a set.

If he is going to make a move surely its better to bet/3b ourselves as his move costs more, obv we still get it in bad vs a set.
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2009, 02:19:56 PM »

I don't like turn C/R

We either just win the pot with his 1 extra bet in there or we get pot stuck for his stack vs a set.

If he is going to make a move surely its better to bet/3b ourselves as his move costs more, obv we still get it in bad vs a set.

yeah, tbh i get so para of floats sometimes i go out of my way to find a way to balance a turn cr range. Normally standard is to double barrel all draws/turned draws.

oh my god the fittest bird just ran past my house. with an ill fitted sportsbra and an enormous pair of jubblies.
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2009, 02:27:37 PM »

I don't like turn C/R

We either just win the pot with his 1 extra bet in there or we get pot stuck for his stack vs a set.

If he is going to make a move surely its better to bet/3b ourselves as his move costs more, obv we still get it in bad vs a set.

yeah, tbh i get so para of floats sometimes i go out of my way to find a way to balance a turn cr range. Normally standard is to double barrel all draws/turned draws.

oh my god the fittest bird just ran past my house. with an ill fitted sportsbra and an enormous pair of jubblies.


now this sounds worth discussing some more....
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2009, 02:45:36 PM »

I don't like turn C/R

We either just win the pot with his 1 extra bet in there or we get pot stuck for his stack vs a set.

If he is going to make a move surely its better to bet/3b ourselves as his move costs more, obv we still get it in bad vs a set.

yeah, tbh i get so para of floats sometimes i go out of my way to find a way to balance a turn cr range. Normally standard is to double barrel all draws/turned draws.

oh my god the fittest bird just ran past my house. with an ill fitted sportsbra and an enormous pair of jubblies.


now this sounds worth discussing some more....

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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2009, 02:52:57 PM »

Alex was last seen sprinting down the street screaming "i need to stop smoking!!"
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2009, 03:20:16 PM »

Alex was last seen staggering down the street wheezing "i need to stop smoking!!"

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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2009, 11:04:02 AM »

Alex was last seen staggering down the street wheezing "i need to stop smoking!!"

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oyoy, cheeky git. Still kick ur ass in a race after a fit bird, smoker or not.... Smiley

Yeah i went for float exloitation Tmar. It didnt go too well, he had one of 2 hands that snapped me off. He actually nitrolled me with his timebank which i was astonished at, but after replaying the hand the guy is breakeven over 11k hands, so probs thought this was thin......

***** Hand History for Game 485343999 *****
$200.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, February 20, 10:09:33 ET 2009
Table Oxygen 26 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Sterretjee ( $257.30 USD )
Seat 2: TenderTrap ( $680.02 USD )
Seat 3: Tarkalqsnik ( $230.05 USD )
Seat 4: JammyJenny ( $213.97 USD )
Seat 5: PALERMOOOOO ( $0.00 USD )
Seat 6: PeteHome ( $78.75 USD )
TenderTrap posts small blind [$1.00 USD].
Tarkalqsnik posts big blind [$2.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to JammyJenny [  ]
JammyJenny raises [$7.00 USD]
PeteHome folds
Sterretjee calls [$7.00 USD]
TenderTrap folds
Tarkalqsnik folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
JammyJenny bets [$12.00 USD]
Sterretjee calls [$12.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
JammyJenny checks
Sterretjee bets [$32.00 USD]
JammyJenny raises [$88.00 USD]
Sterretjee raises [$206.30 USD]
JammyJenny calls [$106.97 USD]
Sterretjee wins $43.33 USD
Sterretjee shows [, ]
JammyJenny shows [, ]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
Sterretjee wins $427.94 USD from main pot



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