does anyone agree

[ScottMGee]

It is still amusing me the thought of a load of refugees from Africa, getting their maps and thinking "How do we get to France to seek a better life", " I know what we will first go right past it, to the UK and then head for Dover".

I tell you what if they are this shrewd maybe they don't have a place in our workforce.

My point was that they have made it to France, a safe country! and yet still they want to get to the UK! - one reason - benefits.

[By driving up the house prices and generally increasing the cost of living for the poor local smucks that live there, destroying the local culture by bringing their fish and chips and their geraniums over. By being a burden on the local NHS, as soo many old people are. By not intergrating in the local community..they set up their own little colonies and God only knows what they get up to in those.
By not making an effort to speak the language..etc..etc....they simply have no business being there!/quote]

In answer to your points.

1) They have a right to be there as they would have gone through proper immigration rules and not simply claimed asylum.
2) I doubt they are a burden on the NHS as I recall the NHS is in the UK. Other countries tend to have private health care or have immigration restriction based on health. I recall an English women with HIV was refused residency in Australia for health reasons.
3) They are bringing money / taxes into the new country and not sending money 'home'.

[vinni]

boldie your wrong in most things you say.
put it this way ,did this Mohamed pay anything towards his way in this country ? NO.

did he get free housing of the local council where he stayed ?. YES

did he pick up his drug habit here ?. NO.

where did he get his money from for the flight to Afghanistan or Iraq ,i know loads of people in work in this country who can ill afford a flight to Spain never mind these 2 country's .
as for people here being lazy that's b ....x,people are getting laid of in there thousands who want work .
this scrounger never once had a job in this country.

now I'm not saying everyone of them are the same, some do want work ,but 65% of em maybe more want the free banking system.i know this through a friend who works for the home office (immigration).

[Jon MW]

...but 65% of em ...

source?

EDIT: I mean, not your friend in the Home Office - but where he got it from

[Bongo]

And we've just subsidised the banks massively, those immigrants wanting bank accounts are taking us for a ride! I bet they caused the credit crunch!

[vinni]

...but 65% of em ...

source?

EDIT: I mean, not your friend in the Home Office - but where he got it from

i cant say id have to shoot you lol.

you would be supprised at some of the things he has told me .
they raided a house last week in Sheffield ,in it there was 3 Iranians and 2 others .
between them they had a total of 100k and cloaning machines for atm's,
not one of these should have been in this country.

[Royal Flush]

2) I do not recall there being camps of refugees at Dover desperate to get into France! unlike the Sangat camp

It's almost as if the UK is an Island and France is on some sort of continent.

like i have said why come to Britain claim asylum then shoot of to Iraq and Afghanistan .

I only skimmed the report but i am pretty sure he was grabbed in Pakistan, i don't see where you get the link to Afghanistan and Irag?!?!?

before you start saying I'm prejudice ,I play and travel with Asians .

This needs more love as well! Come on people!!!

Obv what happened to him was wrong, i think as one of the only nations that had enough sway to stop what was happening there but didn't we have an obligation to look after this man for the rest of his natural life!


Of course the best solution would be to just ship Jack Bauer into G-Bay and within 24hrs (good eh?) he would have processed every inmate and be able to close the place down, he won't even need the toilet or any food.

[Acidmouse]

If we had a choice of who to get rid of in this country:

A: People claiming benefits unfairly that have come to this country in the last 10 years

or

B: People born and bread in this country claiming benefits unfairly.

No brainer and I bet the amount spent on home grown layabouts is huge, maybe spend more time thinking about them than finding stories of some illegal immigrant abusing the system. Its funny most of the people complaining wouldn't grass on benefit cheats who happened to be their friends just because they are born here, they are willing to overlook they are leeching from the state in the same way a small minority of illegal immigrants are.

[Claw75]

before you start saying I'm prejudice ,I play and travel with Asians .

This needs more love as well! Come on people!!!

nah - rubbish compared to the well known blogger's "I'm not homophobic - my sister has a gay friend"

[boldie]

boldie your wrong in most things you say.
put it this way ,did this Mohamed pay anything towards his way in this country ? NO.

did he get free housing of the local council where he stayed ?. YES

did he pick up his drug habit here ?. NO.

where did he get his money from for the flight to Afghanistan or Iraq ,i know loads of people in work in this country who can ill afford a flight to Spain never mind these 2 country's .
as for people here being lazy that's b ....x,people are getting laid of in there thousands who want work .
this scrounger never once had a job in this country.

now I'm not saying everyone of them are the same, some do want work ,but 65% of em maybe more want the free banking system.i know this through a friend who works for the home office (immigration).

wow...this pretty much ends the argument for me. Well done, you've just said is that 65% of the 1.42million immigrants in this country came because your banks are great. 65% is roughtly 910k people....Amazing!...(And that when your banks are some of the worst in Europe for charges and costs..)

http://www.workpermit.com/news/2006_11_21/uk/2-year_immigration_statistics.htm (is where the 1.4mill comes from..note how it also says 1k people leave Brittain every day of which half are British citizens)

Your post is a stunning indictment of the British education system and shows why you need more foreigners in this country.

As for your comments with regards to Mr Mohamed....your last post pretty much invalidates your argument.

[vinni]

boldie you are a fool who rants on ,do you live where these immigrants are put to live ? .
i live a few miles from where they live ,the place is over run with em .
they just sit about doing nothing all day ,on street corners .
the police will not go in to there estate .

as for we need more foreigners in this country ,if we get any More this island would sink.
you should be in government ,they have f.....d this country up just like you would .

my thoughts when this thread was started was how they can let some one like this Mohamed bloke in this country.
so you and many others think its allright for us to take them in .
these people will kill many thousands of good honest hard working people of this country.
then what happens ?,all the dogooders like yourself will say he had to do it or some stupid excuse .
something has to happen before its to late .
this is a fact its in evetable (the words of Ian Blair).

[vinni]

Mr flush meister he was caught in Pakistan after crossing the border from Afghanistan.

[kinboshi]

Boldie is an immigrant.

[kinboshi]

boldie you are a fool who rants on ,do you live where these immigrants are put to live ? .
i live a few miles from where they live ,the place is over run with em .
they just sit about doing nothing all day ,on street corners .
the police will not go in to there estate .

as for we need more foreigners in this country ,if we get any More this island would sink.
you should be in government ,they have f.....d this country up just like you would .

my thoughts when this thread was started was how they can let some one like this Mohamed bloke in this country.
so you and many others think its allright for us to take them in .
these people will kill many thousands of good honest hard working people of this country.
then what happens ?,all the dogooders like yourself will say he had to do it or some stupid excuse .
something has to happen before its to late .
this is a fact its in evetable (the words of Ian Blair).

I couldn't disagree more with what you've said there - but I have two questions for you.

How many immigrants have killed people in the UK in terrorist attacks (and how many people were killed)? 

How many immigrants have saved people's lives in the UK (and how many lives were saved)?

[RED-DOG]

these people

These people... These people!!  My God! I have been labled as "These people" so often in my life. I'm surprised that it still stirs any emotion in me, but it does.

[vinni]

im sorry if i have offended any one with my sayings but its just the feelings i have .
when i say these people i mean ,anti brits .
there is to many of em in this country .
walk down egdware road and see.