does anyone agree

[kinboshi]

boldie you are a fool who rants on ,do you live where these immigrants are put to live ? .
i live a few miles from where they live ,the place is over run with em .
they just sit about doing nothing all day ,on street corners .
the police will not go in to there estate .

as for we need more foreigners in this country ,if we get any More this island would sink.
you should be in government ,they have f.....d this country up just like you would .

my thoughts when this thread was started was how they can let some one like this Mohamed bloke in this country.
so you and many others think its allright for us to take them in .
these people will kill many thousands of good honest hard working people of this country.
then what happens ?,all the dogooders like yourself will say he had to do it or some stupid excuse .
something has to happen before its to late .
this is a fact its in evetable (the words of Ian Blair).

I couldn't disagree more with what you've said there - but I have two questions for you.

How many immigrants have killed people in the UK in terrorist attacks (and how many people were killed)? 

How many immigrants have saved people's lives in the UK (and how many lives were saved)?

Can you answer this question?  Thanks.

[boldie]

It is still amusing me the thought of a load of refugees from Africa, getting their maps and thinking "How do we get to France to seek a better life", " I know what we will first go right past it, to the UK and then head for Dover".

I tell you what if they are this shrewd maybe they don't have a place in our workforce.

My point was that they have made it to France, a safe country! and yet still they want to get to the UK! - one reason - benefits.

AGAIN...UK benefits are HARDER to claim and you get LESS than most other European countries! God man, atleast look into things before you start spouting off this sort of nonsense.

[By driving up the house prices and generally increasing the cost of living for the poor local smucks that live there, destroying the local culture by bringing their fish and chips and their geraniums over. By being a burden on the local NHS, as soo many old people are. By not intergrating in the local community..they set up their own little colonies and God only knows what they get up to in those.
By not making an effort to speak the language..etc..etc....they simply have no business being there!

In answer to your points.

1) They have a right to be there as they would have gone through proper immigration rules and not simply claimed asylum.

So do most immigrants as most of them are from within the EU...unless you only relate immigrant to Africans and Asians...in which case...erm...WOW.

2) I doubt they are a burden on the NHS as I recall the NHS is in the UK. Other countries tend to have private health care or have immigration restriction based on health. I recall an English women with HIV was refused residency in Australia for health reasons.

Really? Which "other countries" tend to have private healthcare in Europe? I am fairly sure every European country has a version of the NHS.

3) They are bringing money / taxes into the new country and not sending money 'home'.

Ah, so that's your problem with immigrants...they send a few hundred quid a month home to provide for their family who aren't very well off.
Doesn't seem a very good reason to be against immigration to me.

[boldie]

I had  a very interesting meet with social services on monday night and the only way that i would be able to get any assistance from them (if the worst was to happen) is to turn up with the boys saying I'm homeless!! without saying it directly she told us it would be the only way to get anywhere, so instead of common sense prevailing and probably costing about £200 a month to arrange transport it looks like I will have to do the radical thing and it would probably cost them £1000,s if i decided to come out of work to make it happen,

obviously i hope it doesnt come to it....

but the benefits system is IMO a complete joke and needs a complete overhaul...

We agree on this completely. I just don't think the answer to the overhaul should be to get rid of the immigrants. Honestly, it's not down to foreigners that some benefits don't go to the right people.

[boldie]

im sorry if i have offended any one with my sayings but its just the feelings i have .
when i say these people i mean ,anti brits .
there is to many of em in this country .
walk down egdware road and see.

So by immigrants and Anti-brits you mean people of a different colour?
I say this because even though I have worked with many foreigners I still can't see the difference between a Frenchman, a German or an Eastern European (unless the Frenchman wear a beret and has Garlic cloves around his shoulder, the German goose steps through city centre saluting everyone and eating a sausage and the pole is paving my driveway obv.)

"Anti- Brits" and you can tell just by looking at them that they are...wow.

[boldie]

boldie you are a fool who rants on ,do you live where these immigrants are put to live ? .
i live a few miles from where they live ,the place is over run with em .
they just sit about doing nothing all day ,on street corners .
the police will not go in to there estate .

as for we need more foreigners in this country ,if we get any More this island would sink.
you should be in government ,they have f.....d this country up just like you would .

my thoughts when this thread was started was how they can let some one like this Mohamed bloke in this country.
so you and many others think its allright for us to take them in .
these people will kill many thousands of good honest hard working people of this country.
then what happens ?,all the dogooders like yourself will say he had to do it or some stupid excuse .
something has to happen before its to late .
this is a fact its in evetable (the words of Ian Blair).

POTY IMO.

[vinni]

boldie you are a fool who rants on ,do you live where these immigrants are put to live ? .
i live a few miles from where they live ,the place is over run with em .
they just sit about doing nothing all day ,on street corners .
the police will not go in to there estate .

as for we need more foreigners in this country ,if we get any More this island would sink.
you should be in government ,they have f.....d this country up just like you would .

my thoughts when this thread was started was how they can let some one like this Mohamed bloke in this country.
so you and many others think its allright for us to take them in .
these people will kill many thousands of good honest hard working people of this country.
then what happens ?,all the dogooders like yourself will say he had to do it or some stupid excuse .
something has to happen before its to late .
this is a fact its in evetable (the words of Ian Blair).

I couldn't disagree more with what you've said there - but I have two questions for you.

How many immigrants have killed people in the UK in terrorist attacks (and how many people were killed)? 

How many immigrants have saved people's lives in the UK (and how many lives were saved)?

Can you answer this question?  Thanks.

none to what i know off ,but only because the m15 have stopped them in there tracks
half the doctors from the Asian country's have bought there documents

there you go answered .

boldie can you tell me how some one has worked all his life served his country (and prepared to die for it)should not get what these immigrants get .

free housing free furnishings (my sister works for the social services in Sheffield),so i know this is correct.
 a good friend of mine who used to frequent my pub ,he has emphysema cant get naff all of the social security .
where as these immigrants walk in and tell them they need some thing and get it with in days .

[vinni]

is Mr Mohamed differant colour you plank .
that is what this was all about.

[cia260895]

I had  a very interesting meet with social services on monday night and the only way that i would be able to get any assistance from them (if the worst was to happen) is to turn up with the boys saying I'm homeless!! without saying it directly she told us it would be the only way to get anywhere, so instead of common sense prevailing and probably costing about £200 a month to arrange transport it looks like I will have to do the radical thing and it would probably cost them £1000,s if i decided to come out of work to make it happen,

obviously i hope it doesnt come to it....

but the benefits system is IMO a complete joke and needs a complete overhaul...

We agree on this completely. I just don't think the answer to the overhaul should be to get rid of the immigrants. Honestly, it's not down to foreigners that some benefits don't go to the right people.

They get what they are entilted to (if they deserve it or not),and that pisses people off

just like the CSA and NHS its all broken and just doesnt work!

[vinni]

I Had a very interesting meet with social services on Monday night and the only way that i would be able to get any assistance from them (if the worst was to happen) is to turn up with the boys saying I'm homeless!! without saying it directly she told us it would be the only way to get anywhere, so instead of common sense prevailing and probably costing about £200 a month to arrange transport it looks like I will have to do the radical thing and it would probably cost them £1000,s if i decided to come out of work to make it happen,

obviously i hope it doesn't come to it....

but the benefits system is IMO a complete joke and needs a complete overhaul...

can you tell me how some one that has given naff all in tax's has a right to be entitled to some thing.
this is what I'm trying to say why should this Mr Mohamed be entitled to anything.

We agree on this completely. I just don't think the answer to the overhaul should be to get rid of the immigrants. Honestly, it's not down to foreigners that some benefits don't go to the right people.

They get what they are en tilted to (if they deserve it or not),and that pisses people off

just like the CSA and NHS its all broken and just doesn't work!

[boldie]

I had  a very interesting meet with social services on monday night and the only way that i would be able to get any assistance from them (if the worst was to happen) is to turn up with the boys saying I'm homeless!! without saying it directly she told us it would be the only way to get anywhere, so instead of common sense prevailing and probably costing about £200 a month to arrange transport it looks like I will have to do the radical thing and it would probably cost them £1000,s if i decided to come out of work to make it happen,

obviously i hope it doesnt come to it....

but the benefits system is IMO a complete joke and needs a complete overhaul...

We agree on this completely. I just don't think the answer to the overhaul should be to get rid of the immigrants. Honestly, it's not down to foreigners that some benefits don't go to the right people.

They get what they are entilted to (if they deserve it or not),and that pisses people off

just like the CSA and NHS its all broken and just doesnt work!

What I am saying is that the few immigrants taking advantage of it is not what is screwing you over...Look up some figures of foreigners on benefits and British people on benefits...I think you'll be surprised.

[boldie]

is Mr Mohamed differant colour you plank .
that is what this was all about.

and this, I think, ends all discussion.

[vinni]

thx for having a nice discussion boldie I'm sorry i wrote that (plank)

[boldie]

thx for having a nice discussion boldie I'm sorry i wrote that (plank)

I'm not offended by you calling me a plank...people call me a lot worse on a daily bases.

[vinni]

i can imagine lol.

[boldie]

i can imagine lol.