WPT Event Northern Cyprus

[sofa----king]

well i have diff opinions.,.,., living in cyprus at the moment..,.,.,i feel a bit 50/50 as i want to play in this tourney but also respect peoples views aswel.,.,.,what you must all consider there is still a lot of business going on with both sides of the island where they do a lot of wheeling and dealing.,.,.so on a point of horses for courses,.,.,where does this stop..,.,?
harry.,.,. i understand what your saying but is it still ok for cyp to bring from the north fruit/veg etc??? as this is just one or two commodities they still trade in/./...,or is it just the odd few things that you personally see that dont suit your tastes???
you must look at the BIG pic and think ahhh well no for poker.,.,.,but trading in diff things is ok??
i think not.,.,.,.,if you feel so strongly about poker.,.,.,why not all other items.,.., regarding cyprus and turkey?
i do very much understand.,.,your views.,.,but what about the turkish cyp who lost everything and had to go back to turkey with nothing?? who built up business and relationships with cyp's then had to leave everything behind.,.,.,.,.,.,??  ok al be it more moajority with cyp losing out but as i said earlier.,.,horse for courses.,.,.,.,my thoughts and my opinions.,.,.,.,

I think Harry's post is spot on and I feel exactly the same way.

Maybe if your family was kicked out from the North and your families' homes, land, heritage and everything that comes along with that was stripped from them like my grandparents land was (Harry possibly being from the North too - not that it matters) then you might feel the same way and offer Harry a pardon for his post seeming to be 'complaining'.

Just a thought.

i understand this 100% and maybee complaining was the wrong word to use,the same thing did happen to turkish cypriots living in the south too they were also told to up and leave at very short notice leaving business behind.i know that cypriots are very passionate about what happend and it is almost 40 years....since.....time is a great healer but they will never forget...a bit like GB AND THE GERMANS.....dont mention the war....

a lot of my friends here are cyp and there are a lot of cypriots wanting to play in this tournament.....if the cypriot goverment moved with the times and allowed casinos in the south,this would solve the poker problems and secret gambling dens in the south,also it would boost tourism which they will desperatley need over the next few years...

[Royal Flush]

time is a great healer but they will never forget...a bit like GB AND THE GERMANS.....dont mention the war....

If Germany  occupied half the UK it would be 'a bit like'

[GreekStein]

time is a great healer but they will never forget...a bit like GB AND THE GERMANS.....dont mention the war....

If Germany  occupied half the UK it would be 'a bit like'

Exactly.

It's not even close to being the same thing.

[Irishdenis]

What an interesting post.  My dad served with the UN sometime in the late sixties or early seventies. He still talks about how beautiful Famigusta looked from the hill side above the resort.

As an Irishman I understand somewhat of how Harry feels. He is a man who speaks only of things that concern him. Perhaps that is why he is seen by some as being so serious.  As for the rights and wrongs of the event, it is right that the organisations involved be made aware of the issues involved. It is a delicate matter which could easily become inflamed.
What I will say is that somewhere along the line some settlement will have to be made between the two countries. What these will be I don't know. Turkey's entry to the EU is probably the best opportunity for decades past or to come.  However again looking at what has happened in Northers Ireland it seems more important to me now, that their is lasting peace in the province than who governs.  The removal of the Turkish army from the area will probably take a long time. Reparations could take decades. In the meantime we all have to get on and allow each other to have opinions and beliefs without fear. I am sure Harry plays poker with many Turkish people who he would call friends. This is a subject bigger than us and will be solved by governments and finance.

[GreekStein]

Apart from Sofa_King's extremely tilting posts on this subject, I've heard a few poker players talking about playing this event recently and those who I've spoken to didn't know about this situation so i thought this thread was worthy of a bump.

I hope that's ok with mods.

[gatso]

are they going there again then? can't see anything on the wpt website

[GreekStein]

are they going there again then? can't see anything on the wpt website

If not this event, then its def some event in Northern Cyprus.

[CRIPPIN]

Be interesting to hear a view from the other side.

[GreekStein]

Be interesting to hear a view from the side of the illegal, and non-recognised state.

yah, agree.

[CRIPPIN]

Be interesting to hear a view from the side of the illegal, and non-recognised state.

yah, agree.

And there we have, in a nutshell, an explanation of 99% of the world's problems!

[byronkincaid]

harry d still playing poker?

[GreekStein]

Be interesting to hear a view from the side of the illegal, and non-recognised state.

yah, agree.

And there we have, in a nutshell, an explanation of 99% of the world's problems!

well what exactly do you want them to say?

The other side want to make money and that's fine. But everyone else shouldn't be endorsing it.

[GreekStein]

Bumping this thread because it's relevant

[celtic]

Bumping this thread because it's relevant

Some questions for you cossy.

Thoughts on Greek Cypriots going there to play?

Do you think there is a place in poker for political stuff?

Do you think your friends should be more aware of the situation and boycott it?

[GreekStein]

Bumping this thread because it's relevant

Some questions for you cossy.

Thoughts on Greek Cypriots going there to play?

Do you think there is a place in poker for political stuff?

Do you think your friends should be more aware of the situation and boycott it?

Good questions - they've got me thinking.

Highly unimpressed by Greek Cypriots going there to play. Let's say Alex, Mitch, Pleno, Hopkin etc went to play there. It wouldn't be something that I'd even hold the slightest bit of bad feeling about. A lot of people don't know the political situation. A lot of people are going because poker is their job etc. I take issue with the WPT hosting an event in a state that isn't legally recognised. As such, I would never play a WPT event or satellite etc.

When I visited the North side, we took everything we could possibly need for the day so that we didn't spend a single cent there. I think that should be the approach of every single Greek Cypriot. Crossing the border to give them rake and help them make money is just ridiculous. My grandparents would be ashamed of me.

I didn't want to go too crazy at the time because I know it was being supported by DTD and it would have looked bad on me to be slating the event. I also know a multiple bracelet winner who had 6 figures on deposit there and it took him a very very long time (around 1 year) to get it all sent to him. I have heard some weird things about who is running things and it doesn't fill me with confidence and I question why it's used as a venue etc.

I don't think there's much of a place in poker for politcal stuff but there also has to be to a certain extent. I think people shouldn't be making political messages on their clothing at televised tables etc.

In an ideal world, I'd love all my friends to boycott it. I'd appreciate it more than they know but I'm also not going to let it bother me at all if they do go. Pros have gotta make money and if that's the next stop on the live tour then I can't begrudge anyone for playing it.

As I've said, my grudge is more with the organisers.