Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!

[T_Mar]

Whats the story here then??... cant see another thread but am presuming Alex and PP have had some kind of 'disagreement'

[Pawprint]

I bet he can't go one show without slagging off someone based on one of the following two criteria:

1) They started playing poker after 2001 (the same year Padraig last won anything)
2) They aren't know to him in his tiny circle of players (mostly Irish who are all apparently world beaters)

In short, he is shit at poker, but he drinks so much he probably thinks he is good, the redeeming quality is he is damn funny (when not slagging people off who are better than he ever was/is/will be)

So funny, and so true.

[GreekStein]

0.25/0.50 could make for an interesting bet. I reckon he would get crushed playing $2/4 over a decent sample.

[outragous76]

I bet he can't go one show without slagging off someone based on one of the following two criteria:

1) They started playing poker after 2001 (the same year Padraig last won anything)
2) They aren't know to him in his tiny circle of players (mostly Irish who are all apparently world beaters)

In short, he is shit at poker, but he drinks so much he probably thinks he is good, the redeeming quality is he is damn funny (when not slagging people off who are better than he ever was/is/will be)

So funny, and so true.

I have my own personal experience with PP - flushy represents the masses IMO!

[Pawprint]

I bet he can't go one show without slagging off someone based on one of the following two criteria:

1) They started playing poker after 2001 (the same year Padraig last won anything)
2) They aren't know to him in his tiny circle of players (mostly Irish who are all apparently world beaters)

In short, he is shit at poker, but he drinks so much he probably thinks he is good, the redeeming quality is he is damn funny (when not slagging people off who are better than he ever was/is/will be)

So funny, and so true.

I have my own personal experience with PP - flushy represents the masses IMO!

I'm merely commenting on how he comes across on the show.  Don't know him, so only based on that.

Good entertainment though, does help if you actually know the poeple they are talkling about.

[ x ]  I struggle a bit there

[Ironside]

i love padraig. Made me so welcome when i was a newbie

[GreekStein]

how about a $10k bet that Padraig can't beat 0.25/0.50 at a better ptbb/100 than Alex Martin can beat the game 2 levels higher?

20k hands.

Doubt Padraig would bet that.

[tikay]

Well I'm afraid the grumpy old fart is gong to spoil the party now......

1) I really don't think that being so abusive to anyone sits well with me. Everyone is now jumping on the bandwagon, but I dislike this.

2) I don't judge people by their poker ability alone, I judge them as individuals, for whom poker plays a part of their life.

3) If Padraig is "shit at poker", so what? He's survived longer than most have been playing, & if he's so hopeless at poker as is suggested, the fact he's survived so long suggests a modicum of respect is due for his dancing skills.
 
4) I fly no flag for PP, none at all, and my views on drunkenness at the poker table are well known. And Padraig likes a drink. But.....

5) Do any of you know how much money this man has helped raise for The Simon Foundation (a Charity for Homeless in Ireland)? It's hundreds of thousands of €, & Padraig works incredibly hard for this most worthy Charity.

Tell you what. I'll turn a blind eye to the abuse & vitriol, if you guys make a donation to the Charity. Can't say fairer than that, & I know Padraig well enough to say he'll settle for that.

So, how much do you wish to donate?

Really, the art of reasoned debate between grown-ups seems to be a dying one.

So, let's see those donations.

PS - For the record, Padraig & I are well acquainted, rather than "good friends", though we go back a long way, we get on well, & have never had an argument. I just think a little bit less of this ill-mannered vitriol would serve us all well. And I happen to admire Padraig immensely for the Charity work he does, and I fancy he's raised a shed-load more for Charity than anyone else on his Forum.

Grumpy Old Fart, Derbyshire, signing off. 

Have a nice day.

[kinboshi]

I'm raising money for charity.

If a few more people sponsored me, I'll have raised a little more!!

http://www.justgiving.com/daniel-phillips

[kukushkin88]

Ill mannered vitriol? All there is a post from Flushy saying he doesn't think someone is very good at poker and a few people agreeing. There's been no ill mannered vitriol as far as I can see. FWIW I think Padraig has always come over pretty well on the TV.

Everyone who learnt to play poker before people worked out how to play poker optimally is almost by definition going to play badly/sub optimally, that shouldn't be held against them.

[Dewi_cool]

& 4 cashes in WSOP 2006 for $200,000+ aint bad goin either


http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=189

[jakally]

Almost all of the people who learnt the game more recently don't play optimally, or even well.
Almost all of the people who think they play optimally, don't.

(I don't pretend to know what 'optimally' is, but at least I am honest enough to admit it).

Too many people put themselves on a pedestal, and take great pleasure in belittling everyone they perceive to be below their imaginary level.
Insecurity is a very destructive quality to have.

[the sicilian]

Almost all of the people who learnt the game more recently don't play optimally, or even well.
Almost all of the people who think they play optimally, don't.

(I don't pretend to know what 'optimally' is, but at least I am honest enough to admit it).

Too many people put themselves on a pedestal, and take great pleasure in belittling everyone they perceive to be below their imaginary level.
Insecurity is a very destructive quality to have.

+1

Arrogance even youthful arrogance is an ugly trait... especially when the majority who espouse these types of view have yet to achieve anything in life let alone poker.. 

[PSpillane]

Hi

I'm working with PP on the show and he is happy to have the bet if JD wants to have one, obv doesn't need to be for 10k, 1k perhaps? Loser donates to charity?

Flushy will you be a guest on the show next week?

Also i don't believe PP is the slightest bit offended by what has been posted here, please don't kill the debate! lol

[kinboshi]

I thought the bet was between AM and PP, not JD and PP?