Flopped the house, and then.....

[TightEnd]

£100 freezeout, Luton

1st level, 25-50

8,000 starting

Three limpers.....to Hero on SB with 

raise to 500, it being tricky to ascertain what raise might get the field thinned but not completely thinned....

Two callers, Jim McBride in the cut off, knows his onions but could be any pocket pair here. He often set mines to raises early on. More likely than an unmade hand like AQ/KJ/A10 etc

Second caller is a South African gentleman, played him before but mental notes are sparse. Not a lot to go on, but not a novice, and not spewy.

So 1600 in the pot when the flop comes the magnificent

 

I lead for 1200 here. Slow play check too suspicious from me

Called in both spots, which is equally magnificent. Lets hope there's a bare ten out, or a meaningful pocket pair or KQ

turn 

Now how do we like it?

1. How do you play the turn here?

I choose to check, admittedly this may be very weak but I have a ten in the range of the second caller on the flop. I suddenly want to keep the pot small

It's checked round

2. How then do you play the river?

I check again, intending to check call. I'll leave the rest for the moment

OK

Please take me through how you would play this on the turn and river

I am interested really in how many streets of value I should be extracting here against two opponents, and at what point I should be slowing down to action

I fully accept my line was the weakest possible....but I'm here to listen!!

[George2Loose]

I think your personally missing value here.

I would lead turn. Case King is just as likely as the 10.

Also QJ is obviously out there.

I may then check/call river but most likely go to bustoville if someone has quadded up

[outragous76]

weak bet the turn - 75% v bet on river (could be all in?) - and not folding at any point

just coolered if beat and obv case K pays you off

[Newportlad]

You are only losing here to the   .   I'm betting 50% of the pot after the turn.  Hopefully keep them both interested, but you want at least one of them.  Hopefully the river is no A or  ! and im then betting about 75%

[Dewi_cool]

fold

[Royal Flush]

I don't mind checking the turn then bet folding the river.

[cod meharly]

I don't mind checking the turn then bet folding the river.

u sure will bet fold the river once u check the turn james...u will level urself and 3bet jam the river for value imo thinking the guy is gna call with 88 or some hand like this looooool

[Royal Flush]

I don't mind checking the turn then bet folding the river.

u sure will bet fold the river once u check the turn james...u will level urself and 3bet jam the river for value imo thinking the guy is gna call with 88 or some hand like this looooool

Meh live poker 100f on a weekday, i am guessing he aint going to bluff shove the river level 1 against a known rock because then he would have to drive all the way home again or wait around for 2hrs till the cash game starts.

[MANTIS01]

I don't mind checking the turn then bet folding the river.

What are you talking about James? The case king never jams right? Bad advice imo.

I don't like how you play this hand Rich. You check the turn/river hoping to keep the pot small with the 2nd nuts (which is poker nasty in itself), but if quads are out there the pot will get big automatically just because of that fact. I think trying to manipulate a small pot vs quads is an impossible task isn't it? Any villain with a 10 is making the same mistake as you by checking the turn and not pot building vs worse hands! I mean think about why quads man checks the turn?? He knows at least one of his oppos has a King they're never folding!! So what's he doing?? All this check check check kings full vs quads. What is going on? I really think you should be trying to get some money into this pot Tighty.

[Dry em]

I don't mind checking the turn then bet folding the river.

+1

[MANTIS01]

If you lead for a half pot 2.6k on the river and villain pushes you will face calling your remaining 3.5k into a 14k pot. I think turning down 4/1 about your oppo having a king is pretty rude really. And why do we discount villain having a king again? Don't really get the motivation behind the river bet if you're planning to fold. It would appear to be a weird bet for information that only really tells you what you already know....villain has a king or a 10. Why is it 4x more likely he has a 10 again?

[paulhouk03]

3 streets of value for me

or maybe bet 30-60% of the pot on the turn

then check call on river

[Steve Swift]

He who dares rodney, guess i am agg i would have them ai.

[TheChipPrince]

I like how you've played it except betting the river...

[keilan303]

I don't mind checking the turn then bet folding the river.

What are you talking about James? The case king never jams right? Bad advice imo.

I don't like how you play this hand Rich. You check the turn/river hoping to keep the pot small with the 2nd nuts (which is poker nasty in itself), but if quads are out there the pot will get big automatically just because of that fact. I think trying to manipulate a small pot vs quads is an impossible task isn't it? Any villain with a 10 is making the same mistake as you by checking the turn and not pot building vs worse hands! I mean think about why quads man checks the turn?? He knows at least one of his oppos has a King they're never folding!! So what's he doing?? All this check check check kings full vs quads. What is going on? I really think you should be trying to get some money into this pot Tighty.

I agree with this....I'd bet stronger on the turn, if someone has the ten they should shove as you must have a K, if they smooth called Aces, AK, KQ, KJ, QQ preflop, they maybe think you were representing the ten and shove anyway....I'd go broke on this, if you lose you have a nice bad beat stoy about how some idiot called 10xBB with and bust your kings I also wrap the dealers knuckles for having two 's in the deck