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Re: Bad News-DTD to close?
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June 02, 2009, 03:13:50 PM »
Quote from: I KNOW IT on June 02, 2009, 03:08:14 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on June 02, 2009, 03:03:56 PM
Presumably the reg fee to tournaments is the bit that's taxed.
How about offering free registration to the £300 deepstack when you purchase a bottle of mineral water.
There's no law against charging £30 for a bottle of water is there? As far as I know it's not subject to the poker tax either.
Just a thought.
Rob stated in his radio interview that he wouldnt do anything which would appear to be dodging the tax as he has other buisness interests to consider
Correct. Rob runs all his businesses "straight" & totally street-legal. It's better that way.
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June 02, 2009, 03:13:56 PM »
Quote from: EvilPie on June 02, 2009, 03:11:37 PM
Quote from: I KNOW IT on June 02, 2009, 03:08:14 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on June 02, 2009, 03:03:56 PM
Presumably the reg fee to tournaments is the bit that's taxed.
How about offering free registration to the £300 deepstack when you purchase a bottle of mineral water.
There's no law against charging £30 for a bottle of water is there? As far as I know it's not subject to the poker tax either.
Just a thought.
Rob stated in his radio interview that he wouldnt do anything which would appear to be dodging the tax as he has other buisness interests to consider
Darn him and his law abiding ways!!!
Wouldn't be an issue for him if it wasn't in his name though, would it?
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Re: Bad News-DTD to close?
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Reply #47 on:
June 02, 2009, 03:17:48 PM »
Quote from: kinboshi on June 02, 2009, 03:13:56 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on June 02, 2009, 03:11:37 PM
Quote from: I KNOW IT on June 02, 2009, 03:08:14 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on June 02, 2009, 03:03:56 PM
Presumably the reg fee to tournaments is the bit that's taxed.
How about offering free registration to the £300 deepstack when you purchase a bottle of mineral water.
There's no law against charging £30 for a bottle of water is there? As far as I know it's not subject to the poker tax either.
Just a thought.
Rob stated in his radio interview that he wouldnt do anything which would appear to be dodging the tax as he has other buisness interests to consider
Darn him and his law abiding ways!!!
Wouldn't be an issue for him if it wasn't in his name though, would it?
maybe the Gaming license is though
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Re: Bad News-DTD to close?
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June 02, 2009, 03:20:01 PM »
Quote from: I KNOW IT on June 02, 2009, 03:17:48 PM
Quote from: kinboshi on June 02, 2009, 03:13:56 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on June 02, 2009, 03:11:37 PM
Quote from: I KNOW IT on June 02, 2009, 03:08:14 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on June 02, 2009, 03:03:56 PM
Presumably the reg fee to tournaments is the bit that's taxed.
How about offering free registration to the £300 deepstack when you purchase a bottle of mineral water.
There's no law against charging £30 for a bottle of water is there? As far as I know it's not subject to the poker tax either.
Just a thought.
Rob stated in his radio interview that he wouldnt do anything which would appear to be dodging the tax as he has other buisness interests to consider
Darn him and his law abiding ways!!!
Wouldn't be an issue for him if it wasn't in his name though, would it?
maybe the Gaming license is though
I have no idea how that works. Is the gaming license in an individual's name, I thought it was for the business?
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Re: Bad News-DTD to close?
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June 02, 2009, 03:21:46 PM »
Forget dodgy practises IT AINT HAPPENING ...
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Re: Bad News-DTD to close?
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June 02, 2009, 03:29:43 PM »
So, if you follow the rules in a law abiding manner, improve the local economy and offer the paying public a service above and beyond that which anyone else offers, you can't break even and potentially have to close.
Something is very wrong with this country.
The tax situation is the problem. I'm not sure whether it is perceived as another way of taxing the rich because in current times, they must be the only ones with cash spare to gamble ?
I treat DTD as an evening out when I am able to make it there.
Yes, the reg fees are more than most casinos, but you get a proper service and environment to play the game that you love to play, and for that, I am more than happy to pay.
Adding additional annual fees or entry fees wouldn't be an issue, but will not solve the problem of the new tax law.
It's just a very sad situation to be in.
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June 02, 2009, 03:31:05 PM »
It is so sick that Rob has spent so much time and money on a place which gives so many people enjoyment, for the government to introduce a stupid fookin law which could force it to close. Also this stupid law isnt really going to gain the Government that much revenue, but it will end up costing people in the ways of their jobs.
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June 02, 2009, 03:34:25 PM »
would contacting Robs local MP regarding potential losses of jobs be of any benefit?
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June 02, 2009, 03:39:02 PM »
If I remember rightly Rob took a lease on the property and, if I'm correct, he is liable for the lease until another lessee is found, not so easy in these economic times. So there is a continuing cost to him even if he closes the club. Perhaps this is less of a cost than the tax?
Hopefully (!) he has made a loss on the club as a whole so this should be offset against his taxes for the year although the VAT is due whatever happens.
I wonder how long the club has to be run as a poker club before the revenue accept (if they ever do) that it's not a casino?
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June 02, 2009, 03:40:30 PM »
I doubt if DTD will be the only club affected by this law, Im suprised all the casinos/ legal poker clubs havent got together and tried to fight this
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Re: Bad News-DTD to close?
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June 02, 2009, 03:42:17 PM »
Quote from: booder on June 02, 2009, 03:34:25 PM
would contacting Robs local MP regarding potential losses of jobs be of any benefit?
He wont be interested, he prob claimed his reg fees back in expenses.
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June 02, 2009, 03:43:22 PM »
Quote from: Dingdell on June 02, 2009, 03:39:02 PM
If I remember rightly Rob took a lease on the property and, if I'm correct, he is liable for the lease until another lessee is found, not so easy in these economic times. So there is a continuing cost to him even if he closes the club. Perhaps this is less of a cost than the tax?
Hopefully (!) he has made a loss on the club as a whole so this should be offset against his taxes for the year although the VAT is due whatever happens.
I wonder how long the club has to be run as a poker club before the revenue accept (if they ever do) that it's not a casino?
I think DTD operates under a full casino license so it doesnt matter whether there are house games or not
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Re: Bad News-DTD to close?
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June 02, 2009, 03:43:38 PM »
Quote from: booder on June 02, 2009, 03:34:25 PM
would contacting Robs local MP regarding potential losses of jobs be of any benefit?
Well he never lifted a finger to support the objectors to all of the local Post Offices being closed down which may be a clue.
I'm assuming that we are referring to Mr. Heppel.
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Re: Bad News-DTD to close?
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June 02, 2009, 03:45:33 PM »
Quote from: Karabiner on June 02, 2009, 03:43:38 PM
Quote from: booder on June 02, 2009, 03:34:25 PM
would contacting Robs local MP regarding potential losses of jobs be of any benefit?
Well he never lifted a finger to support the objectors to all of the local Post Offices being closed down which may be a clue.
I'm assuming that we are referring to Mr. Heppel.
im sure if someone posted the Email addy of said MP, the mods wouldnt delete it too quickly.
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June 02, 2009, 03:46:59 PM »
I wonder if Rob did sell , would Pokerstars or Full tilt be interested in buying it?
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