Bad News-DTD to close?

[paulhouk03]

http://www.betastic.co.uk/gambling_news-dusk-til-dawn-poker-club-close-to-closure.htm
is this true?

[relaedgc]

Loosing is not losing.

On a different note, see this. http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=42233.0

[redsimon]

Do the Government actually stand to gain any amount of consequence in comparison to allowing the casinos and licensed venues to continue as it stands right now? All I can see happening is the casinos dropping poker and the one licensed poker venue going bankrupt.

FYP

[boldie]

From a post from Paulhouk somewhere else on the forum a link to this article;

http://www.betastic.co.uk/gambling_news-dusk-til-dawn-poker-club-close-to-closure.htm

Might just be the worst piece of "journalism" I have ever read.

Nottingham’s notorious Dusk Til Dawn (DTD) poker club may be forced to close its doors after suffering heavy losses from gaming tax and poor turnouts at poker tournaments.

The UK’s first poker-only club burst onto the scene just two years ago, offering something very different to many other gaming establishments. This was an out-and-out poker club that offered nothing else. However, the licence the club obtained was to operate a casino and that may be coming back to haunt them.

Current gambling laws prevent DTD claiming V.A.T. back on a recent £1million refurbishment and the profits from poker games are not allowing the club to break even. To add more misery, the poker club has failed to attract enough cash players to some of its guaranteed prize pool tournaments, meaning they are loosing out every time they host one.

Rob Yong, owner of DTD Poker said: "It's very saddening after all the hard work that myself and my staff have put into the club but it's highly likely we'll be closing."

DTD Poker is expected to close within two weeks, unless they can find financial support to keep the club open.

What a tool.
Getting coverage like in the Notts evening post is one thing as it might spark some people into action...this piece is just soo bad and I reckon not what DtD needs.

[kinboshi]

From a post from Paulhouk somewhere else on the forum a link to this article;

http://www.betastic.co.uk/gambling_news-dusk-til-dawn-poker-club-close-to-closure.htm

Might just be the worst piece of "journalism" I have ever read.

Nottingham’s notorious Dusk Til Dawn (DTD) poker club may be forced to close its doors after suffering heavy losses from gaming tax and poor turnouts at poker tournaments.

The UK’s first poker-only club burst onto the scene just two years ago, offering something very different to many other gaming establishments. This was an out-and-out poker club that offered nothing else. However, the licence the club obtained was to operate a casino and that may be coming back to haunt them.

Current gambling laws prevent DTD claiming V.A.T. back on a recent £1million refurbishment and the profits from poker games are not allowing the club to break even. To add more misery, the poker club has failed to attract enough cash players to some of its guaranteed prize pool tournaments, meaning they are loosing out every time they host one.

Rob Yong, owner of DTD Poker said: "It's very saddening after all the hard work that myself and my staff have put into the club but it's highly likely we'll be closing."

DTD Poker is expected to close within two weeks, unless they can find financial support to keep the club open.

What a tool.
Getting coverage like in the Notts evening post is one thing as it might spark some people into action...this piece is just soo bad and I reckon not what DTD needs.

Obviously someone who's never been to DTD, especially on a £300 weekend when the capacity is reached and every table at the club is being used.

[GreekStein]

From a post from Paulhouk somewhere else on the forum a link to this article;

http://www.betastic.co.uk/gambling_news-dusk-til-dawn-poker-club-close-to-closure.htm

Might just be the worst piece of "journalism" I have ever read.

Nottingham’s notorious Dusk Til Dawn (DTD) poker club may be forced to close its doors after suffering heavy losses from gaming tax and poor turnouts at poker tournaments.

The UK’s first poker-only club burst onto the scene just two years ago, offering something very different to many other gaming establishments. This was an out-and-out poker club that offered nothing else. However, the licence the club obtained was to operate a casino and that may be coming back to haunt them.

Current gambling laws prevent DTD claiming V.A.T. back on a recent £1million refurbishment and the profits from poker games are not allowing the club to break even. To add more misery, the poker club has failed to attract enough cash players to some of its guaranteed prize pool tournaments, meaning they are loosing out every time they host one.

Rob Yong, owner of DTD Poker said: "It's very saddening after all the hard work that myself and my staff have put into the club but it's highly likely we'll be closing."

DTD Poker is expected to close within two weeks, unless they can find financial support to keep the club open.

What a tool.
Getting coverage like in the Notts evening post is one thing as it might spark some people into action...this piece is just soo bad and I reckon not what DTD needs.

Obviously someone who's never been to DTD, especially on a £300 weekend when the capacity is reached and every table at the club is being used.

Probably skipped the year at school when they teach you to spell 'losing'.

[Gazza]

I too will be gutted if this place closes. Just stick a few roulette wheels in, table gaming is better than no poker IMO.

[Claw75]

I too will be gutted if this place closes. Just stick a few roulette wheels in, table gaming is better than no poker IMO.

Trace was right!

[Snatiramas]

I too will be gutted if this place closes. Just stick a few roulette wheels in, table gaming is better than no poker IMO.

Trace was right!

This

[The Nomad]

I do not think 8 pages of speculation will help matters or umbrage over a thieving bunch in Westmister. I am loath to get on here again as Rob Yong  does not take much notice till a few hundred K down the line and the drain.I will however.       In Germany in the mid90s poker was in a sorry state, Dormond where I played at the time had a five table room with 2 going most nights as I had played in the CCC in Vienna and in the US I was underwhelmed to say the least. Many evenings were spent talking to the floorman waiting for a game to start. When I asked why the game was not promoted at all in What was and probably still is the biggest grosser in germany apart from maybe taking punters from the table games he said the casino has to pay 80% tax so after the tax there is not even enough to pay the xs. At the time I thought nothing of it,....When Later I returned to play there all the dealers were looking skittish I asked what was happening they said the thought the room was going to be closed as it was a waste of space. It did  not happen so where is all this going you may ask. OK so fast forward to 2004 or 5, The casino in Mainz or Weisbaden I forget which is running a poker room and getting big fields with the poker boom so how did they overcome the Tax. I do not know but maybe the solution they found could apply to the DTD worth a look methinks.

[Bainn]

Posted at 7.00am this morning -

http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/news/Poker-club-close-doors-weeks/article-1042949-detail/article.html

[Claw75]

Posted at 7.00am this morning -

http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/news/Poker-club-close-doors-weeks/article-1042949-detail/article.html

impressive - an article on the subject that looks vaguely accurate!

[paulhouk03]

From a post from Paulhouk somewhere else on the forum a link to this article;

http://www.betastic.co.uk/gambling_news-dusk-til-dawn-poker-club-close-to-closure.htm

Might just be the worst piece of "journalism" I have ever read.

Nottingham’s notorious Dusk Til Dawn (DTD) poker club may be forced to close its doors after suffering heavy losses from gaming tax and poor turnouts at poker tournaments.


I just googled it after i got home from alea and that was the first thing that i clicked on. People in alea said dtd was closing down i was abit shocked at this news

[Bainn]

http://www.betastic.co.uk/gambling_news-dusk-til-dawn-poker-club-close-to-closure.htm
is this true?

Daniel, the writer of this piece is a plum and looks like he just added spin to the original "Evening Post" piece.

[AlrightJack]

shame

i had intended to try my best to go over and play one of these 3 events towards the end of the year.  it was their own fault tho.  the timing and schedule of the first event was pretty stupid

The cloud over DTD has nothing to do with the overlay in last week's comp.

The date of Grand Slam Leg One (last week) was announced 9 months ago, in a "blank period" - see Sharpleas's Post.

Its a sad state of affairs both for DTD and for other legit operators of live poker. The government's poker tax is ill thought out, designed by people who have less than no clue about what they are doing and threatens the existence of many establishments. I hope DTD can come though this intact, although judging by what Rob has said, it looks like an uphill battle to keep it financially viable.

As far as I remember the Grand Slam was announced in mid January, not 9 months ago. The DTD news archive has it down as January 14th.