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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2009, 12:00:50 PM »

it's way too soon to be making jokes about this.

It's also way too soon to be judging anyone over it.

Let's just focus on praying/hoping/wishing for the lad to recover
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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2009, 12:05:35 PM »

I can see people being understanding if he lost his rag and slapped the kid round the head in a temper or something like that, but to purposfully drag the kid(and he is just a child) to the back room whilst fighting off others then hitting him round the head with a metal weight trying to kill him makes him a complete prick in my book.

i'd be at those school gates where they were handing out the leaflets supporting the teacher and stuffing them down peoples throats if that was my boy lying in hospital fighting for his life.

If may have been the kid and his mates that caused the stress and stoke causing him to go off sick in the first place?

aaaaahhhhh, o.k, did'nt think of that, probably o.k for a 49 year old man to try and kill and 14 year old school boy by battering him to death then.

Sorry dude, this is obviously an extreme case. I'm just trying to get the point across that the laws in place favour the children too much and should do more the help the teachers who are doing a great job most of the time only to have it buggered up by fuckwit kids.
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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2009, 12:06:14 PM »

I've not read the stories because I can't be arsed but my view on this is:

If the teacher has reported the issue to other's including the parents and made people aware of the abuse he is suffering at their hands but it has continued then tough to the kid. If the parents haven't sorted their kid out then it deserves to get a whack. If the teacher's superiors haven't given him help then they deserve a whack for not putting him on stress leave or similar.

If on the other hand the teacher has kept this bottled up and then finally exploded smashing a kid's head in then he should be shot. Twat.

If I was a parent and was told that my kid had been abusing a teacher I'd have to sort the kid out. If the teacher then whacked my kid because he'd carried on I'd be mighty pissed off but would probably understand why it had happened. Not excusing it obviously just understanding why.

If I had not been told anything though and my kid had been whacked I would be searching for the stressed teacher and showing him what stress really was.
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« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2009, 12:07:57 PM »

it's way too soon to be making jokes about this.

It's also way too soon to be judging anyone over it.

Let's just focus on praying/hoping/wishing for the lad to recover

But making jokes and judging people I don't know is what I come here for.

The teacher should obviously have arranged to fight the kid outside the school gates, so the other kids and teachers could stand around in a circle chanting 'FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT'. Then we could have watched the mobile phone footage on YouTube.
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« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2009, 12:11:55 PM »

I've not read the stories because I can't be arsed but my view on this is:




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« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2009, 12:18:43 PM »

I remember the early days of my lil sis starting off teaching primary school kids, she would invariably come home in floods of tears after being treated similarly. Ok you don't go around attempting to murder your pupils, looks terrible on the CV for one thing, but the spirit of the kids was probably 'This is fun, we know it makes him feel like shit, he's probably unsteady already, but WTF can he ever do about it?' If the victim (hope he gets a full recovery) was part of it, then sure he didn't deserve it, but probably wouldn't have been so brazen if he knew this was coming. Ok they'll.  behave like that to the teacher, but not quite so brazen to the 18 year old chavs hanging out on the street corner?
Very bad day when a teacher carries out such an action but very very stressful job in some schools and when you take someone sufficiently vulnerable they'll probably crack. Any kid in that class who continued the jibes has blood on their hands. Would the teacher have gone about attacking kids in another environment? Doubt it.
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« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2009, 12:21:07 PM »

I can see people being understanding if he lost his rag and slapped the kid round the head in a temper or something like that, but to purposfully drag the kid(and he is just a child) to the back room whilst fighting off others then hitting him round the head with a metal weight trying to kill him makes him a complete prick in my book.

i'd be at those school gates where they were handing out the leaflets supporting the teacher and stuffing them down peoples throats if that was my boy lying in hospital fighting for his life.

so you would condemn violence, with more violence ?
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« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2009, 12:24:57 PM »

I can see people being understanding if he lost his rag and slapped the kid round the head in a temper or something like that, but to purposfully drag the kid(and he is just a child) to the back room whilst fighting off others then hitting him round the head with a metal weight trying to kill him makes him a complete prick in my book.

i'd be at those school gates where they were handing out the leaflets supporting the teacher and stuffing them down peoples throats if that was my boy lying in hospital fighting for his life.

so you would condemn violence, with more violence ?

yeah i'd really givie a shit about morality and hypocrisy with my child in hospital fighting for his life.

I dont really condemn violence tbh, though i do condemn adults that hurt women, children and people of vulnerability.

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« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2009, 12:38:15 PM »

None of us know whats really happened here, and the papers are never going to tell you too much.

Why would there be a leafleting campaign if there wasnt a huge amount of background to this?

I honestly cant believe it doesnt happen more often. I think in the future it will happen more and more.

So many kids are out of hand, they have no respect for anything and wont think twice about violently attacking a teacher, tell theyre parents and the teacher is always going to be in the wrong. The parents have no idea what their kid is like because they have more important things in to worry about.

No idea but what really happened here, but then pretty sure a lot of people on here don't know what Mansfield is like  Cheesy

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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2009, 01:04:30 PM »

cctv in classrooms ftw
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« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2009, 01:40:43 PM »

cctv in classrooms ftw

and gym lockers..just in case (and only in universities and only in the women's locker rooms..just so they stay safe of course.)
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« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2009, 02:37:02 PM »

cctv in classrooms ftw

There are some inner city schools that have implemented this and I believe it is common place in the US. Having taught myself for a couple of years, this was bound to happen at some point. I have witnessed enough incidents of kids hitting out at teachers, that eventually the boot would be on the other foot.
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« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2009, 02:41:26 PM »

cctv in classrooms ftw

and gym lockers..just in case (and only in colleges, sixth forms, and freshers universities and only in the women's locker rooms..just so they stay safe of course.)

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« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2009, 02:53:24 PM »

cctv in classrooms ftw

and gym lockers..just in case (and only in colleges, sixth forms, and freshers universities and only in the women's locker rooms..just so they stay safe of course.)

FYP

Dont want know elderly CCTV footage oh bold one.
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« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2009, 03:23:04 PM »

its easy to read the story and say "what a twat" but to flip and do this, the guy is clearly no longer mentally stable.
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