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TightEnd
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Re: You are the TD. You are Player B.
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Quote from: GreekStein on August 20, 2009, 07:00:45 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on August 20, 2009, 06:58:48 PM
Quote from: GreekStein on August 20, 2009, 06:57:48 PM
Clarification on what you mean when you say he pushed his hand forward in mid air?
He gathered his chips in his hand and put the hand, raised above the felt, over the betting line whilst making his comment
Do Luton not have a rule in place for forward motion.
At some places it's binding as a call, in others he's allowed to now pass.
he was allowed to pass
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Re: You are the TD. You are Player B.
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Quote from: TightEnd on August 20, 2009, 06:58:48 PM
Quote from: GreekStein on August 20, 2009, 06:57:48 PM
Clarification on what you mean when you say he pushed his hand forward in mid air?
He gathered his chips in his hand and put the hand, raised above the felt, over the betting line whilst making his comment
I dont see how this is even really angle shooting? If your about to call and the guy decides to flip his hand face up hows that player A's fault?
Player B should be aggrieved that he hasnt learnt to contain his excitment enough yet!
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Re: You are the TD. You are Player B.
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Rookie error- right ruling unless there is a forward motion rule
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Re: You are the TD. You are Player B.
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Quote from: gatso on August 20, 2009, 06:54:16 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on August 20, 2009, 06:52:18 PM
Nope
Does Player B have the right to feel aggrieved was the other part of the OP, aside from the straightforward ruling
no. if you're going to show people your cards halfway through a hand you've got to expect them to make good decisions against you
no you dont
other day in a small crapshoot i missed a guy calling my raise as my view was blocked i exposed my hand everyone at table saw it apart from the caller,
there was 1000tc in pot i had 1100 back and he had me covered by about 1000
i had AJ and the flop came KQ5 it goes check check T on turn and he goes to bet out, table all start laughing and then its decided that seeing everyone has seen my hand i have to show it, i do he now check calls my all in raise with his 2 pair
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Re: You are the TD. You are Player B.
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Quote from: Ironside on August 20, 2009, 07:24:26 PM
Quote from: gatso on August 20, 2009, 06:54:16 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on August 20, 2009, 06:52:18 PM
Nope
Does Player B have the right to feel aggrieved was the other part of the OP, aside from the straightforward ruling
no. if you're going to show people your cards halfway through a hand you've got to expect them to make good decisions against you
no you dont
other day in a small crapshoot i missed a guy calling my raise as my view was blocked i exposed my hand everyone at table saw it apart from the caller,
there was 1000tc in pot i had 1100 back and he had me covered by about 1000
i had AJ and the flop came KQ5 it goes check check T on turn and he goes to bet out, table all start laughing and then its decided that seeing everyone has seen my hand i have to show it, i do he now check calls my all in raise with his 2 pair
lolz, nice
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Re: You are the TD. You are Player B.
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August 20, 2009, 07:28:27 PM »
Wasn't there last night but from reading your post tighty, player a done nothing wrong and player b is an idiot for exposing his hand.
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Re: You are the TD. You are Player B.
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August 20, 2009, 07:29:01 PM »
Quote from: gatso on August 20, 2009, 07:27:44 PM
Quote from: Ironside on August 20, 2009, 07:24:26 PM
Quote from: gatso on August 20, 2009, 06:54:16 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on August 20, 2009, 06:52:18 PM
Nope
Does Player B have the right to feel aggrieved was the other part of the OP, aside from the straightforward ruling
no. if you're going to show people your cards halfway through a hand you've got to expect them to make good decisions against you
no you dont
other day in a small crapshoot i missed a guy calling my raise as my view was blocked i exposed my hand everyone at table saw it apart from the caller,
there was 1000tc in pot i had 1100 back and he had me covered by about 1000
i had AJ and the flop came KQ5 it goes check check T on turn and he goes to bet out, table all start laughing and then its decided that seeing everyone has seen my hand i have to show it, i do he now check calls my all in raise with his 2 pair
lolz, nice
well long term its nice
want nice on the night
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Re: You are the TD. You are Player B.
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August 20, 2009, 07:29:54 PM »
Quote from: Ironside on August 20, 2009, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: gatso on August 20, 2009, 07:27:44 PM
Quote from: Ironside on August 20, 2009, 07:24:26 PM
Quote from: gatso on August 20, 2009, 06:54:16 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on August 20, 2009, 06:52:18 PM
Nope
Does Player B have the right to feel aggrieved was the other part of the OP, aside from the straightforward ruling
no. if you're going to show people your cards halfway through a hand you've got to expect them to make good decisions against you
no you dont
other day in a small crapshoot i missed a guy calling my raise as my view was blocked i exposed my hand everyone at table saw it apart from the caller,
there was 1000tc in pot i had 1100 back and he had me covered by about 1000
i had AJ and the flop came KQ5 it goes check check T on turn and he goes to bet out, table all start laughing and then its decided that seeing everyone has seen my hand i have to show it, i do he now check calls my all in raise with his 2 pair
lolz, nice
well long term its nice
want nice on the night
oopps where do i put my 50p
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Re: You are the TD. You are Player B.
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August 20, 2009, 07:31:02 PM »
For me this is a blatent angle shoot by Player A.
That said, he hasn't technically called.
Ruling:
Assuming no house rule killing dead hands: Player A can do what he likes
Warn player B to be more careful, and not to prematurely expose cards until his opponent says "call" or places the chips on the felt.
Warn player A that this type of angle shooting is against the spirit of the game. If he does it again he can expect some sort of penalty.
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Re: You are the TD. You are Player B.
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August 20, 2009, 07:34:39 PM »
Quote from: Cf on August 20, 2009, 07:31:02 PM
For me this is a blatent angle shoot by Player A.
That said, he hasn't technically called.
Ruling:
Assuming no house rule killing dead hands: Player A can do what he likes
Warn player B to be more careful, and not to prematurely expose cards until his opponent says "call" or places the chips on the felt.
Warn player A that this type of angle shooting is against the spirit of the game. If he does it again he can expect some sort of penalty.
It reads to me like player A was just trying to get a reaction from the player B. Nothing necessarily sinister about it. Just was making like he was calling to see how the guy reacted. Which he did stupidly by instantly flipping his hand over.
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Re: You are the TD. You are Player B.
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August 20, 2009, 07:35:46 PM »
Quote from: StuartHopkin on August 20, 2009, 07:01:39 PM
I dont see how this is even really angle shooting? If your about to call and the guy decides to flip his hand face up hows that player A's fault?
Player B should be aggrieved that he hasnt learnt to contain his excitment enough yet!
I agree with this, certainly as things were explained in op
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Re: You are the TD. You are Player B.
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August 20, 2009, 07:39:16 PM »
Quote from: Cf on August 20, 2009, 07:31:02 PM
For me this is a blatent angle shoot by Player A.
That said, he hasn't technically called.
Ruling:
Assuming no house rule killing dead hands: Player A can do what he likes
Warn player B to be more careful, and not to prematurely expose cards until his opponent says "call" or places the chips on the felt.
Warn player A that this type of angle shooting is against the spirit of the game. If he does it again he can expect some sort of penalty.
Why is it angle shooting?
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Re: You are the TD. You are Player B.
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August 20, 2009, 07:41:01 PM »
Quote from: StuartHopkin on August 20, 2009, 07:39:16 PM
Quote from: Cf on August 20, 2009, 07:31:02 PM
For me this is a blatent angle shoot by Player A.
That said, he hasn't technically called.
Ruling:
Assuming no house rule killing dead hands: Player A can do what he likes
Warn player B to be more careful, and not to prematurely expose cards until his opponent says "call" or places the chips on the felt.
Warn player A that this type of angle shooting is against the spirit of the game. If he does it again he can expect some sort of penalty.
Why is it angle shooting?
If you were about to call and someone shoves their cards in your face and your losing you still call?
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Re: You are the TD. You are Player B.
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August 20, 2009, 07:54:32 PM »
Player B is incredibly handsome* and gifted at poker if this makes any difference?
*not Paul Ephremsen
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Quote from: Chompy on August 20, 2009, 07:54:32 PM
Player B is incredibly handsome* and gifted at poker if this makes any difference?
*not Paul Ephremsen
u sure i cant remember being there
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