Line Check from DTD £300

[Sam Proffitt]

In reality I really dont think youre shoving AK for value on the river here.

[LeKnave]

In reality I really dont think youre shoving AK for value on the river here.

err why?  seems as good a spot to do so as any.

[George2Loose]

agrii. I think if your betting turn, shoving river makes sense.

[Royal Flush]

In reality I really dont think youre shoving AK for value on the river here.

lol wtf

[GreekStein]

What do u think of the rest Dr Demps?

[Royal Flush]

Hand is spew, fold pre.

[Rookie (Rodney)]

Cos you are so bad, as I told you in the car on way home.

[GreekStein]

I fkn taught you how to play in the journey on the way up...then bink £15k score.

Coincidence? I think not.

Btw I'm awesome.

[ALASKAN5IVE]

if you decide to three bet pre with AK - surely three streets of value is pretty standard - esp after he checks river, etc - or am I a spew???

[GreekStein]

Thanks for responses guys.

In retrospect I knew my mistake was getting too busy here. Normally I'm pretty effective at accumulating a stack early but I just forced the action too much and played a bit too fast when I didn't need to.

To those that said my line is nuts or air I really disagree with this. I think I shove AQ here too and bet AJ based on my read.

Can't wait to put it in villains eye soon.

[MANTIS01]

Thanks for responses guys.

In retrospect I knew my mistake was getting too busy here. Normally I'm pretty effective at accumulating a stack early but I just forced the action too much and played a bit too fast when I didn't need to.

To those that said my line is nuts or air I really disagree with this. I think I shove AQ here too and bet AJ based on my read.

Can't wait to put it in villains eye soon.

Agreed. People who don't seek 3 streets of value with TPTK in this tournament vs this type of villain are nuts. However, you have spent all that money proving this truth to the better players at the table. They will no doubt appreciate that.

[EvilPie]

Thanks for responses guys.

In retrospect I knew my mistake was getting too busy here. Normally I'm pretty effective at accumulating a stack early but I just forced the action too much and played a bit too fast when I didn't need to.

To those that said my line is nuts or air I really disagree with this. I think I shove AQ here too and bet AJ based on my read.
Can't wait to put it in villains eye soon.

But the fact is your line looks like nuts or air to a lot of people. It looks more like air than nuts though.

That's exactly why you can bet for value with TPTK because you will get called light.

Bluffing following the flop call and more importantly the turn call is very risky.

Think of the hand from oppo's point of view if he had posted it on here:

I called the flop because I think my middle pair is good.

I then call the turn because I still think I'm good.

He shoves the river. Now what?

Obv we still think we're good so it's a call.

[George2Loose]

He didn't have middle pair on the flop. Villian had a better K high.

Cos got well and truly pwned

[GreekStein]

Thanks for responses guys.

In retrospect I knew my mistake was getting too busy here. Normally I'm pretty effective at accumulating a stack early but I just forced the action too much and played a bit too fast when I didn't need to.

To those that said my line is nuts or air I really disagree with this. I think I shove AQ here too and bet AJ based on my read.
Can't wait to put it in villains eye soon.

But the fact is your line looks like nuts or air to a lot of people. It looks more like air than nuts though.

That's exactly why you can bet for value with TPTK because you will get called light.

Bluffing following the flop call and more importantly the turn call is very risky.

Think of the hand from oppo's point of view if he had posted it on here:

I called the flop because I think my middle pair is good.

I then call the turn because I still think I'm good.

He shoves the river. Now what?

Obv we still think we're good so it's a call.

Can't really debate now as I've had time to think about it and agree I shouldn't have played the hand in the first place. That being said....

Just go over that again pls Matt where you outline oppos thinking. Start with pre pls and include what you think his thought process is on the flop where he has no pair, no draw.

[titaniumbean]

I don't think 3 streets is good against the better players but all day against the donks.

If this tournament wasn't monthly i'd like it alot more. It's just so soft we can find such better spots and save this for when the antes are in and people are folding too much.