NFL 09-10 Thread.

[Royal Flush]

How's this sound, Jets pull upset on NE next week, can see it happening jets are much stronger than 4-5 suggests, a big rivalry as well, NE then lose to NO in the superdome (not the hardest thing to imagine) fins beat carolina and the bills, not impossible.

All be 6-5 in NFC east with fins hosting the pats.

Well i guy can dream can't he?

[The Camel]

How's this sound, Jets pull upset on NE next week, can see it happening jets are much stronger than 4-5 suggests, a big rivalry as well, NE then lose to NO in the superdome (not the hardest thing to imagine) fins beat carolina and the bills, not impossible.

All be 6-5 in NFC east with fins hosting the pats.

Well i guy can dream can't he?

I think the Pats proved they are the best team in the NFL tonight.

I will be hammering them if I can 8/1+ for the SuperBowl.

They made the best offense in the league punt about 10 times ffs.

Their secondary is just awesome. Their O line is super dominant. And in Brady they have the best QB who has ever stepped onto the field.

[Longy]

Carlsen is so far the best NFL expert.

Michaels and Collinsworth blathering on how incredibly bad the 4th down call was, Carlsens analysis was spot on.

A gamble, but probably the correct call. What price is Brady to Moss/Welker or Faulk to get 2+ yards?

They win the game for sure if they get it, if they don't they can still hold.

Having had a think about the call, I actually really like going for it even though my initial thought was that it was madness. Bellicik maybe the only NFL coach who goes for it there and I really respect him for that.

[Royal Flush]

Their O line is super dominant. And in Brady they have the best QB who has ever stepped onto the field.

Ermmm i would say he was the 2nd best quaterback on that field tonight! (Not on tonight's performance just overall)

[The Camel]

Their O line is super dominant. And in Brady they have the best QB who has ever stepped onto the field.

Ermmm i would say he was the 2nd best quaterback on that field tonight! (Not on tonight's performance just overall)

Brady was completely flawless tonight.

He threw one INT which wasn't his fault.

Manning was clearly second best. He threw 2 or 3 terrible passes and his two picks were woeful attempts.

If Indy don't get the ridic pass interference call for 35 yards with 3 minutes left Pats win by 13 and everyone would saying how incred they were.

Pats are gonna win the Superbowl again as long as Brady doesn't get injured. Just think how fired up they are going to be after this loss and all the criticism their beloved head coach is going to get for that call on 4th down.

[The Camel]

Statistical analysis of the 4th down call:

http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/16/defending-belichicks-fourth-down-decision/?hp

[Royal Flush]

Meh they had 25 first downs, 5 of which came from 3rd down conversions, they failed another 7 times on 3rd. What the stats say is kinda misleading imo as it doesn't factor in how a team is doing on the day, the Pats defence was not doing a bad job in holding the Colts (yeah the score was ridic high but just because the colts drive so fast) i would expect they would need to make first like 3 times from the end of the punt gotta be a lower chance than Pats missing on 4th.

[Longy]

Meh they had 25 first downs, 5 of which came from 3rd down conversions, they failed another 7 times on 3rd. What the stats say is kinda misleading imo as it doesn't factor in how a team is doing on the day, the Pats defence was not doing a bad job in holding the Colts (yeah the score was ridic high but just because the colts drive so fast) i would expect they would need to make first like 3 times from the end of the punt gotta be a lower chance than Pats missing on 4th.

The current Colts team would stand a better chance than league average against any defence of a winning scoring drive from 70 yards out imo. Also I think the Pats stand a better chance than league average of making the 4th and 2 given the weapons at their disposal.

Whatever way you cut it Belichick made the correct +ev decision.

[Royal Flush]

Meh they had 25 first downs, 5 of which came from 3rd down conversions, they failed another 7 times on 3rd. What the stats say is kinda misleading imo as it doesn't factor in how a team is doing on the day, the Pats defence was not doing a bad job in holding the Colts (yeah the score was ridic high but just because the colts drive so fast) i would expect they would need to make first like 3 times from the end of the punt gotta be a lower chance than Pats missing on 4th.

The current Colts team would stand a better chance than league average against any defence of a winning scoring drive from 70 yards out imo. Also I think the Pats stand a better chance than league average of making the 4th and 2 given the weapons at their disposal.

Whatever way you cut it Belichick made the correct +ev decision.

Not on the day though imo, but meh i guess that's why he is the nuts and i am a clown watching from the UK

[The Camel]

I think the only mistake Belichick made is not to have made the 4th down call immediately. If he had lined up and gone for it straight away while the Colts were celebrating stopping them on 3rd down (and expecting a punt) they would have had an even better chance of getting it.

Wasting their time outs was a big factor too and very UnPatslike.

Looking forward to watching watching Pardon The Interuption on ESPNAmerica tonight and hearing Wilbon and Kornheiser banging on about it.

[action man]

so ballin having ESPN, how much is it extra pm?

[Josedinho]

£9

[Longy]

What a crap MNF, wtf are the browns doing anywhere near a MNF game. It wasn't like they were good last year, when they were on more than once despite being crap.

Probs just going to go to bed instead, will almost certainly be more interesting.

[gatso]

yeah, shame to put a shit game on mnf. probs gonna watch the start and see how it goes

1 bet, ravens to win by 7-18 @ 2.16

[The Camel]

yeah, shame to put a shit game on mnf. probs gonna watch the start and see how it goes

1 bet, ravens to win by 7-18 @ 2.16

Without looking at stats or anything, that honestly seems a truly terrible price.

If you want some more on at 11/8 it's available with me.