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Monsieur Frenchy
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« on: December 08, 2005, 05:18:01 PM » |
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I hate them!!!!! I have lost the last 5 times i have been dealt them. Each time i have been all in after the flop against 1 player for a reaonsable amount, 2 called by second pair that turns into trips, twice by a pocket pair that turns into a trips and once by a backdoor flush!!!!!!!!! what can you do?? I haven't played them badly??
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Nem
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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2005, 05:21:24 PM » |
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C'est la vie!
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smithy69
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2005, 05:23:00 PM » |
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frenchy i kid you not but i always fold aces preflop, and if anyone bets after the flop i fold
only play 7 4 and you will be making big $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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AdamM
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2005, 10:24:46 AM » |
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frenchy i kid you not but i always fold aces preflop, and if anyone bets after the flop i fold
i REALLY hope you're joking >:? |
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2005, 11:46:43 AM » |
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amazing as it may sound - aces are not 100% proof to hold up. The mathematicians will correct me but they are at best around the 80% mark so 1 in every 5 times they will get cracked. If you have the lost the last 5 times then that is unlucky but then you might win the next 20 and over the long run these stats will hold up.
And - in that period, i bet you cracked Aces on at least one occasion!
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AdamM
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2005, 11:56:26 AM » |
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i wonder if 'properly played' AA is higher than 80%? surely thats based on all in pre flop basically. I wonder what percentages are for crap shoot / deep stack / HU only / etc. anyone with good records care to help?
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2005, 12:10:03 PM » |
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8 10 offsuit will beat Aces roughly 16% of the time, what exactly is "properly played aces"?
My attitude towards them is "if they get beat, they get beat....i'm still gonna try to get all of my oppos chips".
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AdamM
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2005, 12:43:29 PM » |
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you know what I mean don't you?
If you limp into a family pot with AA you'll get beat more often than if you raise 4x BB
the calculations are based on HU all in. I think what I'm actually saying is a good player should expect to win a lot more often with AA (or any other hand) than a bad player
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2005, 12:46:39 PM » |
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thats not aimed at frenchy
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HarlemShuffle
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2005, 01:47:32 PM » |
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If you got dealt aces every hand you wont go far wrong!
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2005, 01:58:29 PM » |
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In theory i think you should win more with aces than 80% mainly because you should get everyone to fold pre flop or on the flop when playing them strongly. If you insist on slowplaying them the % will be less than 80% as you will be playing them multiway. According to poker tracker i have an 85% strike rate with them which maybe luck or might be the fact that always bet the hell out of them lol.
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2005, 02:23:15 PM » |
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I'm 94.59% over 37 pairs of aces from 7,428 hands.
Both times I lost was to pocket tens hitting a set...
Last time I tried slow playing them I was involved in a crazy 5 way all in hand preflop, hands were:
AA
AA
KK
KQs
J3o
Somehow I won (well split with the other AA).
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2005, 02:24:23 PM » |
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Did   win Bongo? |
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Bongo
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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2005, 02:35:06 PM » |
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They have higher EV than KK or KQs!
But this time they missed.
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