Question Time

[Colchester Kev]

I found Question time failed on so many levels last night.

They just didn't seem to allow Griffin to answer the questions without being interrupted or heckled by other members of the panel / audience. The whole show seemed to be attack on the BNP and dig up shit from his/BNP's past, the objective was not to make it about the BNP's past or views on stuff not asked by the audience but simply to find out their views on current issues (as Dimbledumb tried to point out a few times but failed).

We all know BNP are utter scum but they he will have gained sympathy and more votes from this sham debate.

I agree to an extent... Why ask him awkward questions and then not give him the rope to hang himself by allowing him to answer ?  ridic !

Also, Jack Straw was awesome when quizzing Griffin about his holocaust denial ... "Answer it, I am the justice minister, I will allow you to speak", then when Griffin started on about the French etc, Straw says "It's ok, I will sort that for you as well"

Overall, I felt I was left a little cheated last night, I dont think the other panellists harmed Griffin or his party as much as they should have done because they were far more concerned with trying to make themselves look good by saying what the baying crowd wanted to hear.

I would really like to see a one hour long interview with Griffin done by someone like Darcus Howe ... In fact I would pay damn good money to see that !

[DaveShoelace]

I found Question time failed on so many levels last night.

They just didn't seem to allow Griffin to answer the questions without being interrupted or heckled by other members of the panel / audience. The whole show seemed to be attack on the BNP and dig up shit from his/BNP's past, the objective was not to make it about the BNP's past or views on stuff not asked by the audience but simply to find out their views on current issues (as Dimbledumb tried to point out a few times but failed).

We all know BNP are utter scum but they he will have gained sympathy and more votes from this sham debate.

I agree to an extent... Why ask him awkward questions and then not give him the rope to hang himself by allowing him to answer ?  ridic !

Also, Jack Straw was awesome when quizzing Griffin about his holocaust denial ... "Answer it, I am the justice minister, I will allow you to speak", then when Griffin started on about the French etc, Straw says "It's ok, I will sort that for you as well"

Overall, I felt I was left a little cheated last night, I dont think the other panellists harmed Griffin or his party as much as they should have done because they were far more concerned with trying to make themselves look good by saying what the baying crowd wanted to hear.

I would really like to see a one hour long interview with Griffin done by someone like Darcus Howe ... In fact I would pay damn good money to see that !

Much sooner see him go on 'Have I got news for you' - he would get destroyed

[Acidmouse]

Jack Straw seemed to be obsessed with telling us he is from Jewish decent and not answering if Labours immigration policy had anything to do with the rise in popularity for the BNP. If wont answer questions how can he expect Griffen to?

[Acidmouse]

Jack Straw - YOUR A COMPLETE ****. and cannot tell anyone about justice.

Jack Straw, former Foreign Secretary, was famously President of Leeds University Union in 1967-68. Whilst President, Straw played a role in leading a student sit-in in June 1968.[1] In 2000, a motion was passed at the LUU Annual General Meeting strongly criticising Straw, then Home Secretary, for his part in the Asylum and Immigration Bill, the attempted removal of trial by jury (for some defendants) and legal aid in many cases, the anti-terrorism bill, the curfew on teenagers, mandatory drug testing for criminal suspects, and his attitude towards cannabis and tuition fees. Simon Rothstein, who proposed the motion, noted that the organisations that have condemned Straw included the Bar Council. He also pointed out that Mrs Thatcher had said, "I trust Jack Straw. He is a very fair man." The motion revoked Jack Straw's life membership of the union, banned him from the union building and called on the university to withdraw Straw's honorary degree.[2]

In September 2007, the Communications and Internal Affairs Officer, Neil Mackenzie, put forward a motion to reinstate Jack Straw's name on the Presidents' Board in the Old Bar, but this fell at Union Council.[3] In November 2007, a motion was put to a referendum of the entire student body over whether to reinstate Jack Straw's membership of the union and have his name returned to the Presidents' Board. The motion passed by 1,175 votes to 423, meaning Jack Straw's life membership will soon be reinstated and his name returned to the board of former Presidents.[4][5]

[kukushkin88]

Jack Straw - YOUR A COMPLETE ****. and cannot tell anyone about justice.

Jack Straw, former Foreign Secretary, was famously President of Leeds University Union in 1967-68. Whilst President, Straw played a role in leading a student sit-in in June 1968.[1] In 2000, a motion was passed at the LUU Annual General Meeting strongly criticising Straw, then Home Secretary, for his part in the Asylum and Immigration Bill, the attempted removal of trial by jury (for some defendants) and legal aid in many cases, the anti-terrorism bill, the curfew on teenagers, mandatory drug testing for criminal suspects, and his attitude towards cannabis and tuition fees. Simon Rothstein, who proposed the motion, noted that the organisations that have condemned Straw included the Bar Council. He also pointed out that Mrs Thatcher had said, "I trust Jack Straw. He is a very fair man." The motion revoked Jack Straw's life membership of the union, banned him from the union building and called on the university to withdraw Straw's honorary degree.[2]

In September 2007, the Communications and Internal Affairs Officer, Neil Mackenzie, put forward a motion to reinstate Jack Straw's name on the Presidents' Board in the Old Bar, but this fell at Union Council.[3] In November 2007, a motion was put to a referendum of the entire student body over whether to reinstate Jack Straw's membership of the union and have his name returned to the Presidents' Board. The motion passed by 1,175 votes to 423, meaning Jack Straw's life membership will soon be reinstated and his name returned to the board of former Presidents.[4][5]

Any explanation as to why this makes a Jack Straw a complete **** and removes his right to tell anyone about justice? As unimpressive as he was last night I don't see the relevance of this article.

[AndrewT]

There's the look of love if ever I saw it.

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[MANTIS01]

Most of the show descended into a childish mudslinging episode and that was a real shame. Trying to discredit Nick Griffin and squabbling about history wasted the opportunity for progressive political debate about modern day Britain. The emergence of the BNP highlights genuine issues in this country which mainstream politicians need to take seriously and address. Typical of this government and of Jack Straw to deny there is such a problem. Sayeeda Warsi was the only panelist who embraced this point and urged further debate on the matter.

I think there was a beautiful aspect to last night's show though. As both Bonny Greer and Sayeeda Warsi radiated intelligence and debated skillfully. Anybody needing confirmation about the value of multiculturalism got it from this show. Britain has come a long way by embracing diversity and here we had the demonstable proof. Two women from ethnic backgrounds totally outclassing the bumbling "indigenous" males who spent much of the time arguing about who's dad was the hardest back in the war. This wouldn't have been possible in Churchill's Britain or indeed in many countries around the world today.

Agree about Griffin's WTF lizard-tongue. Gave me the fucking creeps.

[gatso]

Saw you at the BP Garage earlier Gatso, you looked in a rush mate.

 

[cia260895]

 p,s straw looked a tw@ about his dad comment so pwned by griffin
 

Many conscientious objectors were braver than the conscripts who were sent to war imo.

Ian, how did Griffin's ad hom attack on Straw's dad lend any weight at all to his arguments?  The only thing he did during QT was confirm himself as a racist, holocaust-denying, homophobic bigot.  Why should the rest of the panel not gang up on him?  It was actually refreshing to see all the different parties agreeing with each other and finding a common ground (until they started trying to score points off each other again).  Nice to see Griffin bringing the country together against him.

Dan his 'ad hom' attack didnt do anything to add weight to his arguments.I just loved the way Straw squirmed like an oily toad,

[kinboshi]

 p,s straw looked a tw@ about his dad comment so pwned by griffin
 

Many conscientious objectors were braver than the conscripts who were sent to war imo.

Ian, how did Griffin's ad hom attack on Straw's dad lend any weight at all to his arguments?  The only thing he did during QT was confirm himself as a racist, holocaust-denying, homophobic bigot.  Why should the rest of the panel not gang up on him?  It was actually refreshing to see all the different parties agreeing with each other and finding a common ground (until they started trying to score points off each other again).  Nice to see Griffin bringing the country together against him.

Dan his 'ad hom' attack didnt do anything to add weight to his arguments.I just loved the way Straw squirmed like an oily toad,

Cheers Terry.

[Acidmouse]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8322322.stm

hard to disagree..i read the times this morning which outlined these point.s

[kinboshi]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8322322.stm

hard to disagree..i read the times this morning which outlined these point.s

Hard to disagree?  He's a racist holocaust-denying homophobe.  Why didn't he answer the questions he was asked instead of trying to deflect and avoid answering them.  These weren't open-ended questions, they had yes or no answers.  Instead he just denied everything, even stuff that is on video that everyone's seen.  He deserved a public lynching, and the best case for the prosecution was himself every time he opened his vile mouth to talk.

[cia260895]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8322322.stm

hard to disagree..i read the times this morning which outlined these point.s

Hard to disagree?  He's a racist holocaust-denying homophobe.  Why didn't he answer the questions he was asked instead of trying to deflect and avoid answering them.  These weren't open-ended questions, they had yes or no answers.  Instead he just denied everything, even stuff that is on video that everyone's seen.  He deserved a public lynching, and the best case for the prosecution was himself every time he opened his vile mouth to talk.

but isnt that what all politicians do?

[CelticGeezeer]

Jack Straw - YOUR A COMPLETE ****. and cannot tell anyone about justice.

Jack Straw, former Foreign Secretary, was famously President of Leeds University Union in 1967-68. Whilst President, Straw played a role in leading a student sit-in in June 1968.[1] In 2000, a motion was passed at the LUU Annual General Meeting strongly criticising Straw, then Home Secretary, for his part in the Asylum and Immigration Bill, the attempted removal of trial by jury (for some defendants) and legal aid in many cases, the anti-terrorism bill, the curfew on teenagers, mandatory drug testing for criminal suspects, and his attitude towards cannabis and tuition fees. Simon Rothstein, who proposed the motion, noted that the organisations that have condemned Straw included the Bar Council. He also pointed out that Mrs Thatcher had said, "I trust Jack Straw. He is a very fair man." The motion revoked Jack Straw's life membership of the union, banned him from the union building and called on the university to withdraw Straw's honorary degree.[2]

In September 2007, the Communications and Internal Affairs Officer, Neil Mackenzie, put forward a motion to reinstate Jack Straw's name on the Presidents' Board in the Old Bar, but this fell at Union Council.[3] In November 2007, a motion was put to a referendum of the entire student body over whether to reinstate Jack Straw's membership of the union and have his name returned to the Presidents' Board. The motion passed by 1,175 votes to 423, meaning Jack Straw's life membership will soon be reinstated and his name returned to the board of former Presidents.[4][5]

While I am not a Jack Straw fan, I think that I would find the nazi Holocaust denier more objectionable than the Jew.

[kinboshi]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8322322.stm

hard to disagree..i read the times this morning which outlined these point.s

Hard to disagree?  He's a racist holocaust-denying homophobe.  Why didn't he answer the questions he was asked instead of trying to deflect and avoid answering them.  These weren't open-ended questions, they had yes or no answers.  Instead he just denied everything, even stuff that is on video that everyone's seen.  He deserved a public lynching, and the best case for the prosecution was himself every time he opened his vile mouth to talk.

but isnt that what all politicians do?

Only ones with something to hide when the question is "Do you deny the Holocaust?"